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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Sutty86]
    #24939330 - 01/24/18 05:17 PM (6 years, 6 days ago)

i was ordering oster blender blades to make slurry/agar LI
and i realized i have a blender already from tesco i paid about 20pounds for it comes with two bottles and two lids and the screw on (to the bottle not the blender) blade attachment. so you can also use the blender blade as a lid.

i will try to PC the bottle tomorrow with water while the blade attachment will be used as lid (less fucking around with lids - less contemns) and i blend an agar plate to use it as LI. probably just going to pour it like i would with g2g not going to bother with a syringe.

pic of the blade used as lid. btw the lid is perfect for pouring LI

i tested the 1000ml pp5 ampullas in the presto23q today and they survived no issues.
i could fit 4+4 of them in one go. i had to raise every second jar so they fit next to each other, i cut a blackthorn can into half as a stand. i expected they will use the same amount of grain as the quart jars but you can fill a lot them a lot higher and still able to break them up without issues since its plastic not glass. my estimate for capacity

10 x 946ml quart jars filled to 70%-80% = 6600ml-7550ml
8 x 1000ml pp5 buckets filled to 80%-90% = 6400ml-7200ml(edit 5600ml-6100ml more realistic)
90% probably pushing it too much but they are in the same ball park.

basically i filled 3 quarts of dry oats into the 8xpp5s after cooking


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: zzerg85]
    #24940071 - 01/24/18 11:37 PM (6 years, 6 days ago)

If that's the same blade you have it will deform in the PC. Get the oster blade I did after melting 2 blade bases like that


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Fascistbullyboy] * 1
    #24940290 - 01/25/18 03:49 AM (6 years, 6 days ago)

These came today a little of on the small side but cheap and pp5



£2.96 delivered free off amazon 35ml sauce pots

Gone up to 3.89

Suvived PC also


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Fascistbullyboy]
    #24940443 - 01/25/18 06:55 AM (6 years, 5 days ago)

Yes that’s the same one I have. Are you sure it won’t survive a 20-30 min PC cycle? They seem a lot more robust than a pp5.


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: zzerg85]
    #24940480 - 01/25/18 07:31 AM (6 years, 5 days ago)

What it seems like at a low temperature has nothing to do with how it behaves at a high temperature. Buy an Oster blender, you won't be sorry. You can find em second hand on eBay for REAL cheap. The vintage models look like you could beat someone to death with em. And also like they'll never break. Blades are also available on eBay, even at half price if you don't mind having made in China replica's.


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: LizardWizard]
    #24940625 - 01/25/18 09:24 AM (6 years, 5 days ago)

I already got the blades for £2 of eBay
You can use a drill to work it no need for an oster blender
I tried the use them with the 1000ml pp5 ampulla buckets but the etc silicon let go during PC
So I’m building the ball jar version now.


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: zzerg85]
    #24940837 - 01/25/18 10:59 AM (6 years, 5 days ago)

Yeah the plastic that the blade is encased in deforms. Think there's a post on here with pics. I'll see if I can find it


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Fascistbullyboy]
    #24940876 - 01/25/18 11:19 AM (6 years, 5 days ago)

Here ya go https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22574181

Pics are about half way down


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: zzerg85]
    #24943751 - 01/26/18 02:31 PM (6 years, 4 days ago)

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zzerg85 said:
i realized i have a blender already from tesco i paid about 20pounds for it comes with two bottles and two lids and the screw on (to the bottle not the blender) blade attachment. so you can also use the blender blade as a lid.

i will try to PC the bottle tomorrow with water while the blade attachment will be used as lid





Do not PC it. I have spoken before about testing plastics. That breville says the bottles can survive a dishwasher. It does not say the blade attachment can so I would presume there is no way it would survive boiling, let alone a PC cycle. The bottles will not necessarily survive boiling either, esp. prolonged boiling.

http://www.breville.co.uk/breakfast/blend-active/blend-active-with-2-bottles-green/VBL062-01-MASTER.html

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zzerg85 said:
Yes that’s the same one I have. Are you sure it won’t survive a 20-30 min PC cycle? They seem a lot more robust than a pp5.



Depends on what you mean by robust, if you fucked a bottle out the top window, and a PP5 sandwich container of the same thickness my money is on the PP5 faring better. By robust you are probably meaning that they seem hard, and cannot compress them like you could a thick PP5 expensive lunchbox. This is actually usually a bad sign for common plastics in goods like these. My money would be on it not surviving boiling let alone a PC.

My simple test is to get a pot of water to about 80-85C, now stick the plastic in, preferably partially submerged. Take it out after a minute and see it if it has become anyway bendable or pliant, give it a very light squeeze with an oven glove on, or thick glove. (of course if it is already bendable this does not apply, I am thinking of blender bases etc). If it does survive stick it back in and heat a bit longer. You want to heat a bit which if it does deform does not really matter. e.g. if testing a bottle you could stick the end with no threads on it in the water, this way if it deforms it is no big deal, the threads are intact and you can still use it. If the threads deform to much you are fucked. If you have only slightly boiled and deformed it then it could still be usable. But sticking it in a PC will get you something fit for the bin.

If it survives 85C then go to boiling. Even the more expensive blenders usually do not go to boiling. The plastics that do survive PC for long lengths of time, and are hard & clear usually cost a fortune, so are simply not used.

I would not PC and clear PP5 containers I have past 5psi if I wanted to maintain clarity. I usually just boil agar anyway. If making agar containing grains you would want to PC properly, but you can PC the liquid (without agar if you want) in a glass jar at 15psi, then add the agar and pour into dishes and get away with steaming or 5psi. I have found prolonged and high heating of the agar (as in the gelling agent) can fuck it up, but I do not believe there are endospores or anything in the gelling agent that require PC temps. Prolonged heating below 100C will fuck up agar, I am talking 24hrs or so, not sure what the lower limit is.


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: blackout]
    #24945453 - 01/27/18 07:10 AM (6 years, 3 days ago)

thank you for the lengthy answer! much appreciated x


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: zzerg85]
    #24945964 - 01/27/18 11:54 AM (6 years, 3 days ago)

Anyone here grow woodlovers on dowels? I've been looking for blank dowels to buy in UK but so far have only found ann for fungi blank dowels and at half the price blank spiral groove dowels

Wondered if anyone's got a good source cheers.


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    #24947746 - 01/28/18 08:10 AM (6 years, 2 days ago)

received spore syringe and print from free spores espana yesterday, very good value, syringe is in sterile packaging and visual spores in GT.
i paid for standard shipping and came a week from shipping.
the group ship on saturdays


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Sutty86]
    #24947751 - 01/28/18 08:12 AM (6 years, 2 days ago)

I'd say just look for dowels online. They don't have to be "for funghi". Just standard wooden dowels are usually fine. Try to buy em in bulk, they cost a whole lot when bought per 40-ish packs.


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: LizardWizard]
    #24948185 - 01/28/18 10:08 AM (6 years, 2 days ago)

Isnt a dowel just a piece of wood you knock ikea furniture together with


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24948223 - 01/28/18 10:43 AM (6 years, 2 days ago)

Where’s everyone been getting brf from? Gonna knock up a selection of pf jars and some grain. But can’t remember where I used to get brf from. Kinda just wanna walk in and buy it rather than order off line sick of waiting for stuff lol


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Elhato]
    #24948258 - 01/28/18 11:05 AM (6 years, 2 days ago)

holland and barrett
think i bought buy one get the other for a penny sale


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Sutty86]
    #24948278 - 01/28/18 11:16 AM (6 years, 2 days ago)

Yes, dowels are just that. Not just Ikea though, and they can be quite pricey regardless.


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: LizardWizard]
    #24948466 - 01/28/18 12:53 PM (6 years, 2 days ago)

Yes I've just been looking at ordinary dowels (not sold for mushroom use) and they're still more expensive than the spiral ones (they're supposed to be the best for mycelium to jump off of). Just wondered where other people were buying theirs.

If I can't find anything cheaper I'll go with 1000 spiral groove ones for £20. Only 2p a dowel. But I'd be interested to hear of anywhere cheaper (hard wood dowels).


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: crowseed] * 1
    #24948744 - 01/28/18 01:42 PM (6 years, 2 days ago)

If the wood isn't any different, I doubt spiraled or straight makes much difference. Sales talk probably if you ask me. :2cents:


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Re: UK supplies thread. [Re: Elhato] * 1
    #24948857 - 01/28/18 02:26 PM (6 years, 2 days ago)

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Where’s everyone been getting brf from? Gonna knock up a selection of pf jars and some grain. But can’t remember where I used to get brf from. Kinda just wanna walk in and buy it rather than order off line sick of waiting for stuff lol





I've been using doves farm. Sainsbury's sell it 1.75 a bag and I get about 24 half pint jars per bag with a bit left over.


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