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Re: Wanna trip tonight, need advice about san pedro powder [Re: joemolloy]
    #14533310 - 05/29/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That's exactly what's going on. The whole thing is one consistency, slime.


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Re: Wanna trip tonight, need advice about san pedro powder [Re: Fungal-one]
    #14533346 - 05/29/11 10:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

hold nose and hope for the best?:thumbup::bouncey:


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Re: Wanna trip tonight, need advice about san pedro powder [Re: Micawber]
    #14533363 - 05/29/11 10:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I put it back on the stove. Gonna boil it down till I get ready for bed. Tomorrow I'll put it in a jug and stash it somewhere. I'll pick away at an A/B over time lol. I have nothing to lose now, product wise, so why not? Plus I got a brand new sep funnel that has never seen liquid.


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Re: Wanna trip tonight, need advice about san pedro powder [Re: Fungal-one]
    #14535536 - 05/30/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Need help asap, please. I put everything back in the pot last night and simmered more until it cooked down a little. I turned off and went to bed. This morning I was able to decant off about a half a quart of clearish snot. I put a little water back in the pot and simmered a couple more hours. Simmer may be too strong a word, I heated until it was barely putting off water vapor. Anyway, I stopped heating and now I wanna try something else since the slime is not going away. I was reading about defatting, is that the source of the slime? I was thinking of putting everything I have in the sep funnel with some xylene and doing the defatting thang. I would have to make much current sludge acidic first to do this, I know that, but will this xylene trick do away with the slime?

HELP!!??


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Re: Wanna trip tonight, need advice about san pedro powder [Re: Fungal-one]
    #14535632 - 05/30/11 12:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I had the same problem as your describing.  Even doing an a/b extraction the first step is to boil the material and then separate the water from it so your back to step one.  I put the glop in with the xylene and it emulsified and would not separate, I let it sit there for a day and came back to it and still, nothing.  Not saying you wont have better results.  Just saying I now have well over a hundred bucks worth of novelty green dehydrated snot powder sitting in my garage taking up space.  I tried an alc extraction too but didn't get the effects I was after.  I guess that leaves eating it, somehow...  I saw a method posted on youtube where the guy added the base solution first and then the solvent later, he really started out with some hellish gloppy shit and got something out of it so maybe that is the answer.  I wish I remembered the poster or the name of the video, all I can say is that there is no audio, just music for a soundtrack and in between steps, he uses still shots from "Invader Zim" for graphics with the written instructions and supplemental information.
  I hope you find a method, I am in the same boat & am sick of screwing w/ the shit.  I wish I had bought strips or shreds of skin instead of powder....fwiw, saw this and had to say something because I have been/am there in that same spot.  good luck


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Re: Wanna trip tonight, need advice about san pedro powder [Re: crow man]
    #14535669 - 05/30/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well, I only did 50 grams, so I don't stand to lose that much. Plus I've convinced the roomie that I'm only trying an herbal sleeping remedy :lolsy: So Imma break out the glassware.

I'm gonna just play around here and see what happens. I'll updated this thread with my results, although it wont all be done today, too busy.

The plan, as of now, is to acidify the sludge to ph 4 then wash a few times with xylene. Then rebasify with a little ammonia or NaOH, not sure which I'll go with yet. Then resalt with some HCl and let it evaporate in a desiccator bag.


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Re: Wanna trip tonight, need advice about san pedro powder [Re: Fungal-one]
    #14536320 - 05/30/11 02:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I hate to be so wishy washy, but oh well. I said fuck it and dumped the whole thing in a big jug and let in sit in the fridge and hour or so then decanted off as best I could the clearer layer. I ended up with about a quart of bitter snot. I chugged it. We'll see what happens. Weeeee.


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Re: Wanna trip tonight, need advice about san pedro powder [Re: Fungal-one]
    #14536337 - 05/30/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You downed a quart of that shit? That's hardcore. I would of used a lot more water than necessary during the boils to avoid the snot while filtering then simmered the liquid extractions down to a single shot. My body starts rejecting it after a couple gulps so I just do it in one shot.


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Re: Wanna trip tonight, need advice about san pedro powder [Re: muistrue]
    #14536351 - 05/30/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'm used to chewing up and relishing the taste of hydrocodone lol. It wasn't that bad.


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Re: Wanna trip tonight, need advice about san pedro powder [Re: Fungal-one]
    #14536913 - 05/30/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

One time I ate an ounce of dried SP chips and tripped for nearly 16 hours. By my estimates they were MUCH stronger than 2% alkaloids (probably more like 5-6%). With cacti you never really know what kind of active alkaloid content you're getting. IME it's always better to overestimate with cactus than to underestimate. The trip is usually not as much as a mindfuck as other drugs (LSD, Psilocybin, nn-DMT) so "the fear" is less likely to occur with ego-shattering doses.

If you're working with 50g of power just simmer the powder for 8+ hours, strain and drink the extract or cook/dry it down more until you're working with resin.

I've combined this ammount with MAOi before and been underwhelmed so I might even suggest combining it with a bit of cannabis to kick things into high gear (if that's what you want).


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Re: Wanna trip tonight, need advice about san pedro powder [Re: Remix]
    #14536948 - 05/30/11 05:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, I got nuthin from it all. I'll pursue this once I get moved and I can break out the big guns on it and really do some experimenting. This down low shit sucks. I got more glass and it's driving me insane wanting to use it.


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Re: Wanna trip tonight, need advice about san pedro powder [Re: Fungal-one]
    #14537042 - 05/30/11 06:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If you want to keep everything on the DL do an A/B or alcohol extraction. With those you don't need anything other than the necessary chems and a place to evaporate the final solution.

Doing a tea or an acidified water extraction usually requires a bit more space because you have to add a reliable source of heat to the equation.


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Re: Wanna trip tonight, need advice about san pedro powder [Re: Remix]
    #14537182 - 05/30/11 06:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I didn't think about the alcohol extraction till it was too late. If I do it again before I move, that's the method I'll try, also I'll go with 100 grams of starting mat'l.

Yeah man, I think breaking out the hot plate and whatnot would have at least aroused unwanted curiosity in what I was doing. One of my room mates is on intense probation and the cops have showed up here numerous times in the middle of the night just to make him blow a breathalyser or pee for them. I hate being under that shit. I'm thankful I had a place to get myself back together after my heroin problem and then accident, but I'm back together now and it's time to move on. I gotta be like Bizzle and be doin thangs soon or Imma snap and killa niggah.


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