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Contam (Pic)
    #14530290 - 05/29/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

the mycelium looks so close to it, is there any chance it can conquer the green invasion?




Jar is 13 days old.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14530324 - 05/29/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Let it try. Im on a phone right now so i cant really tell what color it is.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: Wing]
    #14530331 - 05/29/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I don't see green either?


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14530342 - 05/29/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

hard to see in the pic...  but I'd toss it out if it's green..  :frown:


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: Matty_Rulez]
    #14530368 - 05/29/11 12:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

In focus picture:

Green blob at center of screen.




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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14530378 - 05/29/11 12:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Still don't see it


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: glitche]
    #14530426 - 05/29/11 12:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

From the side



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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14530878 - 05/29/11 01:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

hmmm...  is it growing in  size at all??  won't hurt to keep an eye on it for experiences' sake..  :thumbup:


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: Matty_Rulez]
    #14530916 - 05/29/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Oh, I see it now. I agree with Grim420 just see what happens then you will know first hand.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14531066 - 05/29/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Looks like a rock or something. Your Myc looks wonderful! Nice and ropey like, whispy almost. Mine always looks like a snow flake, but not like that.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: thor_ak]
    #14531102 - 05/29/11 02:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've isolated it and will keep it under inspection.




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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14534142 - 05/30/11 01:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I would see if you could get a trusted cultivator to look at that. I had a set of jars just a couple of weeks ago with that same whispy white super awesome looking "mycelium" and RogerRabbit informed me that it was bacterial contamination growing. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14478375#14478375 I deleted the pic but will load it back into my picture gallery for you to see.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: PileusSonofGalt]
    #14534146 - 05/30/11 01:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: PileusSonofGalt]
    #14535086 - 05/30/11 10:07 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hmmm from everything I read white and ropey is good and is a sign of rhizomorphic growth.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14535259 - 05/30/11 10:50 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

No sign of trich, evereything is looking good.:thumbup:


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: Luger0815]
    #14535305 - 05/30/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I don't see anything green but when in doubt, throw it out. Throwing it out in the yard isn't considered a waste. :wink:


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: Breakfast Crew]
    #14537102 - 05/30/11 06:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

So both the jars in question seem to have overtaken the green dot. You can hardly see where it was. However now I'm worried about what I don't see on the inside. If I don't see any more green and the jars continuing colonizing bright white is it safe to assume I can birth them?



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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14537163 - 05/30/11 06:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Break them up and give them a good sniff before spawning. If they smell like anything but fresh mushrooms, then trash tek them.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14537167 - 05/30/11 06:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If they keep going well, and you don't notice any more spots, it should

be okay. Just pay attention when you open the jar to birth it, smell it,

if it smells good, and doesn't crumble to pieces, its probably okay.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: thor_ak]
    #14537180 - 05/30/11 06:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

This is my first grow so I don't know what fresh mushrooms smell like, but I'm going to keep them as cakes for the first time rather than spawning grain or the like.

I'll keep any eye out. Thanks for the help.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14537204 - 05/30/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: Wing]
    #14537264 - 05/30/11 06:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Fresh mushrooms smell like fresh mushrooms. Normally your local produce store will sell these products in the fresh produce section.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: PinsWellWithOthers]
    #14537365 - 05/30/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I've been there and done this one.  It won't be a total waste of your time.  Just keep it separate from the rest, (if doing more than one tub).  The contamination is present and will be there.  If you have the right ratios and the perfect substrate, you'll get a less than decent first flush but no second, third or even fourth flush.  I experimented with it and won't do it again. :nono:  not worth the time, effort and money.  I would start fresh.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #14537401 - 05/30/11 07:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Start fresh completely? I have 16 other uncontaminated jars atm, with two SGFC's ready to go. You don't mean to say my entire batch is compromised do you? That would be disappointing to say the least.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14537457 - 05/30/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Start fresh completely? I have 16 other uncontaminated jars atm, with two SGFC's ready to go. You don't mean to say my entire batch is compromised do you? That would be disappointing to say the least.




No Silly! If you have 16 other uncontaminated jars than just toss that one.  I didn't realize that you had all those others.  Believe me, one tossed jar won't make or break a grow in the grand scheme of things.  Include that jar and you will have lost the yield potential of all the other jars.  Get rid of it!  Not worth the risk or time or money.  Bottom line. :awesomenod:


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #14537479 - 05/30/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Nam nam nam, it pains me so.

They were my best growing jars.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14537639 - 05/30/11 08:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I thought it was just one jar. :confused:


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14537821 - 05/30/11 08:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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That's not mold.
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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #14537825 - 05/30/11 08:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I've thrown out one already the first day I saw the green, this second one I posted a picture of, and a third appeared but the mycelium appeared to eat it up. Both Jar #2 and #3 are isolated and under observance. I began with 11 of that strain, so 8 left that appear totally healthy.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14537829 - 05/30/11 08:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

That is the same cake as but a day later when the mycellium was kind of covering it.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14537897 - 05/30/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'm confused if it's not mold what is it?

Safe to birth with the rest once the mycelium covers it up?


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14537971 - 05/30/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

What ever this green thing is, it's not trich or any contam i know.
If this green spot dont grow or spread, it's nothing to worry.
Keep an eye on it.
But in doubt:better save then sorry!
Tossing one jar is easy, loosing all jars hurts real bad.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14537983 - 05/30/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It could have been a rock or something that was in with your verm.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: thor_ak]
    #14537987 - 05/30/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

damm rocks.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14538287 - 05/30/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yea if it doesn't grow then I'd use it. You could always use it outside if your too concerned about it


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: Wing]
    #14538357 - 05/30/11 10:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Here's the litmus test for any suspected contamination.

Trich creates toxins which weakens the mycelial network, and thus your strain's hold on the substrate. It's always localized to the point of contamination. You could circle the spot on the outside of the jar, wait until it's fully colonized, birth it, then poke that spot with your finger (under running water of course). If it's softer and collapses, you've got a contam. If it's just as corky as the rest of the cake, you're fine.

Pretty much any contam will soften the cake, but trich is especially nasty about it.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: smurf_master]
    #14538448 - 05/30/11 10:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I would say wait and smell them. A lot of molds and mushrooms have their own smell. Worst case, you could set up a small grow chamber for 2 cakes and wait and see.

Beautiful mycelium!


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: maug]
    #14538786 - 05/31/11 12:29 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

When in doubt.....Don't

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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #14539253 - 05/31/11 04:50 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

just do what your doing. and wait till its 100%. i would leave it in the jar till you see pins, thank birth/dunk and put in the FC. watch it close and u will be good. u can at least get one flush from it and trash it. do what u feel is best bro. :pm: me if u need anything
if you see green after you put it in the FC get rid of it, it cant be saved.

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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: ShadOWCrack]
    #14539881 - 05/31/11 09:18 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Fruiting a contaminated cake is not a problem really, like the link at the top for a RR response says, they are safe to eat. BUT, if they are contaminated and you fruit them you may compromise your grow area. If you have any doubts and you do fruit them bleach bomb your area after harvest. From all of the reading I have done lately that would be my chosen course of action. I hope you have a good uncontaminated grow though.


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    #14540189 - 05/31/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

As far as I know, there is really no such thing as an "uncontaminated" grow area for small time growers. Especially if you grow in the area you eat/sleep. I sure am not going to bleach bomb where I eat/sleep. I've done 2 dozen or so cakes, and have had 0 contams. I got some kind of mildew or mold on the window, a there's been more then enough moldy food in here over the years. If In doubt, give them a fighting chance in a separate fruiting chamber. Nature holds it's own.

Just misting with water will clear up the air a lot. And providing lots of fresh air exchange during fruiting is the best defense against mold.


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Re: Contam (Pic) [Re: maug]
    #14540273 - 05/31/11 11:27 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I would not do any part of my grow other than sterlizing jars or pastuerizing substartes where I eat or prepare food. The kitchen is easily the most contaminated area of your house, the bathroom would be next and I am guessing your dining room table third.


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