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Smoking Alternatives
    #14529643 - 05/29/11 07:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hello shroomers!

I live in a couuntry (at the moment) called the United Kingdom, and, as a result of this I am forced to smoke my weed with tobacco.

This is because weed is sooo fucking expensive, and I cant afford to smoke weed only blunts.

Pipe hits are great and require no tobacco but sometimes I just want a spliff. Problem is that tobacco is a horrible cancer causing thing.

What could I smoke with my weed instead of tobacco that would
a) taste good
b) have minimal tar and harmful carcinogens
c) perhaps potentiate the high


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: spazmodog]
    #14529657 - 05/29/11 07:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You brits are so weird! :evil:


Last time I was in the UK I noticed how everyone smokes spliffs, can't just roll a straight up joint. I don't understand that at all, why can't you just use a normal sized paper and roll a damned joint? I was rolling straight joints all day long last time I was there, and I was catching shit left and right because of it :rofl:


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
    #14529681 - 05/29/11 07:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

dude beleive me, if i could afford it i would.
i personally do roll smaller straits instead occasionaly.
i smoke with my gf all the time tho so a single skin would go that far.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: spazmodog]
    #14529686 - 05/29/11 07:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

besides ive smoked most of my life in kenya.
where weed is probably cheaper than most places in the world
it pisses me off that im paying literally 50 times the price
sucks ass :mad:


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: spazmodog]
    #14529794 - 05/29/11 08:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I dont know what to say, cause I smoke my weed with weed.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14529813 - 05/29/11 08:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

There are different herbal blends you can use as an alternative to tobacco. I know a guy who uses something called "Earth Impact" which is completely tobacco/nicotine free.

If you google "Earth Impact herbs" the first hit will be to a UK site.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14529836 - 05/29/11 08:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My local head shop sells greengo, which is sold in tobacco-like bags.
I prefer it alot more than tobacco when I'm rolling spliffs, but I tend to just smoke weed straight off from my bong. It's 20 quid an 8th of good cheese where I am, and my dealer is also a close friend who always gives me extra :rasta:.
Greengo have an online website I believe, you may be able to order from there :smile:.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: Fronnis]
    #14529855 - 05/29/11 08:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Don't smoke, eat.
I stopped smoking when began to eat.
Much better effect and long lasting.
When I smoked, I smoked only weed.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: Hacendado]
    #14529970 - 05/29/11 09:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Or be a real bad ass and get a vaporizer, after 10 years of smoking the herb I dont really like smoking anymore just vapeing so much more clean.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14529998 - 05/29/11 10:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Using an herb like Damiana might be what your looking for....that stuff is incredibly cheap and you could roll it in your spliffs. I don't know if you would really like the taste though. I don't think it is bad but some people certainly do.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
    #14530020 - 05/29/11 10:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Use a bong or pipe...

I smoke weed and tobacco, but always seperate.

I'd rather take a bong rip and smoke a cigarette afterwards than smoke a spliff. The two should just not be put together. Weed tastes best with weed.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: Subconscious]
    #14530352 - 05/29/11 12:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Pick the yellow flowers from the Broom shrub you see growing along every country road-side in UK, stick them in a jar for a couple of week's then empty em out again after they gone all mushy.  After they dried stick em back in the jar and seal lid tightly, 3 months later after curing em u can smoke ur ed-off and its better than weed reputably.

Dont quote me on it though cuz I only read it and didnt never try it.  And why would I? what would be the attraction for me anyway? I never smoked weed in first place.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: fantasticfungus]
    #14530589 - 05/29/11 12:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Pick the yellow flowers from the Broom shrub you see growing along every country road-side in UK, stick them in a jar for a couple of week's then empty em out again after they gone all mushy.  After they dried stick em back in the jar and seal lid tightly, 3 months later after curing em u can smoke ur ed-off and its better than weed reputably.

Dont quote me on it though cuz I only read it and didnt never try it.  And why would I? what would be the attraction for me anyway? I never smoked weed in first place.




That sounds about as effective as bananadine. Seriously, if people could get high from smoking road weed why would they spend £160 an ounce on actual weed? Heh.. Oh sorry I already quoted you.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: Libertin]
    #14530604 - 05/29/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

hmmmm some cool answers,
i think i might look into damiana
cheers peeps!


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: spazmodog]
    #14530606 - 05/29/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Hello shroomers!

I live in a couuntry (at the moment) called the United Kingdom, and, as a result of this I am forced to smoke my weed with tobacco.

This is because weed is sooo fucking expensive, and I cant afford to smoke weed only blunts.

Pipe hits are great and require no tobacco but sometimes I just want a spliff. Problem is that tobacco is a horrible cancer causing thing.

What could I smoke with my weed instead of tobacco that would
a) taste good
b) have minimal tar and harmful carcinogens
c) perhaps potentiate the high



HAHAH your tobacco logic is total nonsense if you ask me

I will never understand

Tobacco makes your weed taste like shit
And it irritates my throat and lungs so much more

Its a disgusting thing to do this flavorful smoke

Just roll smaller blunts/joints dude. It doesn't matter if the volume gets bigger - how ever much THC there is in your pot, that is how much is in your 'spliff'. You're just watering it down with filler man. Bad-tasting, toxic filler at that.

This whole mixing pot with tobacco is an ass backwards european thing to do anyway, might as well get with the program and see what your weed actually tastes like.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: drr]
    #14530649 - 05/29/11 12:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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spazmodog said:
Hello shroomers!

I live in a couuntry (at the moment) called the United Kingdom, and, as a result of this I am forced to smoke my weed with tobacco.

This is because weed is sooo fucking expensive, and I cant afford to smoke weed only blunts.

Pipe hits are great and require no tobacco but sometimes I just want a spliff. Problem is that tobacco is a horrible cancer causing thing.

What could I smoke with my weed instead of tobacco that would
a) taste good
b) have minimal tar and harmful carcinogens
c) perhaps potentiate the high



HAHAH your tobacco logic is total nonsense if you ask me

I will never understand

Tobacco makes your weed taste like shit
And it irritates my throat and lungs so much more

Its a disgusting thing to do this flavorful smoke

Just roll smaller blunts/joints dude

This whole mixing pot with tobacco is an ass backwards european thing to do anyway, might as well get with the program and see what your weed actually tastes like.




I know its nonsense!!!
I smoke w/ tobacco because I have little money and a king sized spliff will go further with a couple of people.

If im smoking alone I just smoke my pipe

Its just what people do in this country!!!!!

I didnt grow up smoking here and I think its just as retarded as you do!!! Id never even heard of putting baccy in splif before i got here.
Im always pushing for blunt smoking but ppl just done go with it. They stick to what they know.

I come from africa where an ounce is about 10 usd, im not used to it, so im looking for an alternative to tobacco.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: spazmodog]
    #14530663 - 05/29/11 01:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hmm

I dont know


I never smoke blunts because they use so much weed! And the simple fact that even the tobacco wrap is too much tobacco to mix with my weed.

Bong all the way for me. Can't you pack your friends bong hits?


You will find that when your weed isn't mixed with filler...You get higher off fewer hits. A smaller joint can still get the same number of people high. Just without tobacco.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: drr]
    #14530689 - 05/29/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Seriously I do not understand it, but he is being 100% honest, everyone in the UK smokes spliffs mixed with tobacco. Actually, I find that true most everywhere in Europe. People would look at me funny when I was in many different cafe's in Amsterdam for the same reason, they would see me rolling a big fat green joint and think "crazy gluttonous Americans". Its fuckin weird. :rofl2::peace::gd_icon:


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
    #14530714 - 05/29/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Seriously I do not understand it, but he is being 100% honest, everyone in the UK smokes spliffs mixed with tobacco. Actually, I find that true most everywhere in Europe. People would look at me funny when I was in many different cafe's in Amsterdam for the same reason, they would see me rolling a big fat green joint and think "crazy gluttonous Americans". Its fuckin weird. :rofl2::peace::gd_icon:



So weird.

LOL I don't think I'd let it bother me. I'd be totally fine with being the only guy not mixing my green with tobacco.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: spazmodog]
    #14530729 - 05/29/11 01:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

how much is a g lol


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: AnarchyXx420xX]
    #14530741 - 05/29/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

weird bloody europeans.... its very different in the UK from kenya,
in kenya id smoke someone up and not even consider the idea that they should repay the favour! wheras here everyone keeps a little mental tally.....meh. maybe its just the people im with
lol.

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how much is a g lol




where i am right now? Probably £10
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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: spazmodog]
    #14530773 - 05/29/11 01:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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weird bloody europeans.... its very different in the UK from kenya,
in kenya id smoke someone up and not even consider the idea that they should repay the favour! wheras here everyone keeps a little mental tally.....meh. maybe its just the people im with
lol.

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how much is a g lol




where i am right now? Probably £10
its fuuuucked up



Thats about equal to $16  a gram

That's about the same as here. I'm sure its cheaper if you buy more. :shrug:

I know what's happening though. I understand. These UK kids you are hanging with are SUCH dicks about it that you can't get away with just smoking straight grass. I feel for you, that sounds annoying.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: drr]
    #14530810 - 05/29/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

well an ' 8th ' over here costs £20-£25
but it never weighs in an an actual 8th, you'd be lucky if you got 3 grams.

from personal experience i can tell you that its neigh impossible to make money off weed over here without undercutting people
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That's about the same as here. I'm sure its cheaper if you buy more. :shrug:






idk, im pretty super broke atm. so its not helping... ah well all should be sorted in september when im going to start growing.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: spazmodog]
    #14530822 - 05/29/11 01:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I know what's happening though. I understand. These UK kids you are hanging with are SUCH dicks about it that you can't get away with just smoking straight grass. I feel for you, that sounds annoying.




nah its no so much that, got some pretty good ppl over here actually.

albiet in my time here i have encountered people whom i simply dont feel like they deserve to be smoking weed.... chavs and such.
scumbags just missing the point by a mile


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: spazmodog]
    #14530824 - 05/29/11 01:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I feel ya man. It kinda sounds like these UK stoners are a pain in the ass to deal with :grin: < 3 gram 'eighths' and they give ya shit for smoking it without tobacco. (just kidding!)

Is the pot at least good for that price??


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: drr]
    #14530859 - 05/29/11 01:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

not that great..its pretty standard most of the time.
where i am theres not much consistency when it comes to the weed you're getting.
different weed basically every week.
since september last year tho ive encounterd the occasional blue cheese or amnesia haze. and we had some white widow in december.
which was sweet.

back home though i get super cheap but really fucking good rasta kush from Shasemane, Eithiopia that we just call 'Shash'

and beleive me it is the shit. lol
I could smoke only that weed for the rest of my life and be soooo happy.  :awehigh:


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: spazmodog]
    #14530866 - 05/29/11 01:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm so spoiled over here man.

There are five dispensaries in my town and each regularly has 10-20+ different flavors to chose from. Not to mention full melt bubble hash, oil, tinctures, edibles, butter, olive oil, THC capsules, and live plants for sale. I'm in marijuana heaven

Good luck with your search for filler!! :grin:


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: drr]
    #14530903 - 05/29/11 02:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm so spoiled over here man.

There are five dispensaries in my town and each regularly has 10-20+ different flavors to chose from. Not to mention full melt bubble hash, oil, tinctures, edibles, butter, olive oil, THC capsules, and live plants for sale. I'm in marijuana heaven





:uh: 
:awesurprise: 
:zomgwtf:

FUCK YOU MAN!!! just FUCK YOU!!!!!

lol, just kidding,

happy smoking bro!!!! :vaped:


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: spazmodog]
    #14531393 - 05/29/11 03:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Some recent stuff from around here.
This is a bit better bud than usual.







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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: spazmodog]
    #14531606 - 05/29/11 04:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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This is because weed is sooo fucking expensive, and I cant afford to smoke weed only blunts.




I don't know how it is in the UK but here in America we grow our own, why not give that a shot?


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: muistrue]
    #14531919 - 05/29/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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spazmodog said:
This is because weed is sooo fucking expensive, and I cant afford to smoke weed only blunts.




I don't know how it is in the UK but here in America we grow our own, why not give that a shot?




hell yes man!
its definatly a plan of mine
getting a house with a couple of friends in september and were definatly planning on growing... probably shrooms as well.


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    #14531931 - 05/29/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

+1 for bong hits.

i rarely smoke paper with my weed anymore. nonetheless tobacco leaf


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: spazmodog]
    #14532234 - 05/29/11 06:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I would send you some bong hits, sucks about those prices..

Im in marijuana heaven too lots of buds..just bought a new double perc and it rips amazing. :feelshighman:


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: AnarchyXx420xX]
    #14532266 - 05/29/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Has a persy bong ever occurred to you? Also I'd suggest taking psychedelics. Personally you wont need as much weed anymore. Used to be a daily blunt smoker for a year or so. Turned to psychedelics because of drug testing and was curious. Now I don't smoke often at all maybe that is it but for my friends too that use hallucinogens, a couple persy hits and you are set man.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: spazmodog]
    #14532369 - 05/29/11 06:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Some recent stuff from around here.
This is a bit better bud than usual.









I thought you said your weed sucks? That looks good man!


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: spazmodog]
    #14532429 - 05/29/11 07:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Some recent stuff from around here.
This is a bit better bud than usual.









Hey dude ditch that metal pipe and get a glass one and you will appreciate both smoking from a pipe, and the flavor of your weed without tobacco, a LOT more. Or again a bong is optimal

You start smoking out of a glass bong, and I swear, after that, you will feel like you are wasting your weed to smoke it out of anything else.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: drr]
    #14533003 - 05/29/11 09:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hmm, I don't know about that. I find pipes/joints (not spliffs) tend to have the most "full" and long lasting high. My favorite is a one-hitter.

To the OP: damiana is good, blue lotus too. Lotus tastes very nice. Both of those are pretty cheap, but I don't know about potentiating weed much. The effects are very, very mild on their own. Kanna can potentiate weed and is not a bad mixer but it's not that cheap, so I don't think that helps you. There's word that kanna acts as a natural SSRI, so I'd be a bit more careful with that one (it IS good).


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    #14533761 - 05/29/11 11:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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fantasticfungus said:
Pick the yellow flowers from the Broom shrub you see growing along every country road-side in UK, stick them in a jar for a couple of week's then empty em out again after they gone all mushy.  After they dried stick em back in the jar and seal lid tightly, 3 months later after curing em u can smoke ur ed-off and its better than weed reputably.

Dont quote me on it though cuz I only read it and didnt never try it.  And why would I? what would be the attraction for me anyway? I never smoked weed in first place.


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That sounds about as effective as bananadine. Seriously, if people could get high from smoking road weed why would they spend £160 an ounce on actual weed? Heh.. Oh sorry I already quoted you.






Quote me again Libertin... how do you know if you dont try it? and why anybody buy acid from a dealer when semilanceata grows everywhere?


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14533891 - 05/30/11 12:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

ChronicSmoke said:
I dont know what to say, cause I smoke my weed with weed.




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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: stepup.stepout]
    #14534387 - 05/30/11 03:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

SMOKING IS BAD. YOU CANT NAKE IT LESS BAD.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: Glayvin]
    #14534603 - 05/30/11 06:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'd say it's worth it the get a vape. A friend and I can stay baked all night on like .3 grams. Pros- taste great, not harsh on the lungs, saves green, Different temps offer different highs and when your done vaporizing it you could smoke what is left or make edible like I do. Cons- requires electricity, the initial price of the vape is semi-steep $250-300 for mine but people spend that much on nice glass bongs that there high ass friend ends up breaking.


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: 2shoes]
    #14536266 - 05/30/11 02:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

vape your cannabis. you use much less trees then you would while smoking, tastes better, healthier, can use leftovers to make edibles/alcohal tinctures. basically stretch your bags out even more then your 80% tobacco and 20% herbs. dont know if your spliffs are that way but when i was in liverpool all i could taste was tobacco and we had to smoke a few of them to get high lol.

i still don't understand the tobacco spliff thing. :confused:


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Re: Smoking Alternatives [Re: kushfarts]
    #14536313 - 05/30/11 02:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I have tons of friends that constantly smoke ciggarettes and tobacco around me. I have seen them all get addicted, try and quite but then they fuck it up. Yea yea.

Just smoke weed! Tobacco doesn't even get you high, it's pointless.
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