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OfflinePhantomPower
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Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? * 1
    #14528610 - 05/28/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



This bugs me.  There are rules about maintaining an atmosphere of solemn observance at these memorials.  But I'm going to have to say first amendment trumps that.  No victim, no crime.


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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: PhantomPower]
    #14528645 - 05/28/11 10:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Nope.

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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: PhantomPower] * 1
    #14528646 - 05/28/11 10:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This is so fucked...

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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: BothHands]
    #14528696 - 05/28/11 11:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That cop is so ignorant. he cant even tell them what law theyre breaking!:lolsy: Thats why  only idiots who barely passed highschool  become cops, cuz theyre the only morons who would enforce ANY law, and like to throw non violent people to the ground. Those are the kind of guys who get off on inflicting violence on innocent people.:mad2:

Cops are paid bullies.
Nothing more.:ugh:

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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: PhantomPower]
    #14528714 - 05/28/11 11:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

huh, weird. many cultures throughout history have considered it improper to be solemn at these types of things and would encourage dancing- so...isn't it kind of prejudiced and unrealistic to ban it altogether?

thats how the world seems to be today though, and not only in the US, but in many countries that tout 'liberty' it is still a tightly controlled culture that punishes those who are taboo in some way even as they continually speak of equality and freedom

such hypocrisy :facepalm:


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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #14528721 - 05/28/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

thelivingfreekshow said:
Cops are paid bullies.
Nothing more.:ugh:




They are also hired goons.


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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: PhantomPower]
    #14528781 - 05/28/11 11:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

PhantomPower said:
This bugs me.  There are rules about maintaining an atmosphere of solemn observance at these memorials.  But I'm going to have to say first amendment trumps that.  No victim, no crime.




I'd have to say so to. This is clearly free and peaceful expression.


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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: Devlish2]
    #14528810 - 05/28/11 11:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If we could get weed legalized then I feel like a lot would follow

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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #14528820 - 05/28/11 11:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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thelivingfreekshow said:
That cop is so ignorant. he cant even tell them what law theyre breaking!




yes he did right at the beginning of the video, he said "I'll give you our
warnings, if you come here to protest by dancing then you will be arrested"


gotta have a permit for a protest

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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14528825 - 05/28/11 11:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
gotta have a permit for a protest




That's ridiculous.


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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14528836 - 05/28/11 11:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

thelivingfreekshow said:
That cop is so ignorant. he cant even tell them what law theyre breaking!




yes he did right at the beginning of the video, he said "I'll give you our
warnings, if you come here to protest by dancing then you will be arrested"


gotta have a permit for a protest




:lol: pris has a point.  Also, it's a major security risk guys.  Come on.  Their job is to keep others safe, if you guys wanna run around dancing and causing confusion that was unexpected at a possible terror spot, they're gonna enforce their jobs.  He tried to give a warning.


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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14528852 - 05/28/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Devlish2 said:
Quote:

thelivingfreekshow said:
Cops are paid bullies.
Nothing more.:ugh:




They are also hired goons.




Yeah notice how like 4/5 of the "park police" had the body of the Hulk incarnate, cloned and having come back in time
Quote:



Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

thelivingfreekshow said:
That cop is so ignorant. he cant even tell them what law theyre breaking!




yes he did right at the beginning of the video, he said "I'll give you our
warnings, if you come here to protest by dancing then you will be arrested"


gotta have a permit for a protest





Assuming they were vocally protesting before the video starts.  How is slow dancing a protest, they're a group that share belief systems and dance in their collective mourning like people have done for thousands of years?

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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: Devlish2] * 2
    #14528854 - 05/28/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Fucking power trips those pigs are on.


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  FINE YOU IMBECILE; SUFFER!! IT IS YOURSELF THAT YOU ARE HURTING. NOTHING IS DETERRING YOU FROM ATTAINING THAT OF WHICH YOU INHERENTLY CRAVE. YOU HAVE LET THEM TAKE OVER YOUR MIND, YOU ARE NO LONGER IN CONTROL, YOU NEVER WERE.

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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: unam sanctum]
    #14528876 - 05/28/11 11:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

unam sanctum said:
Quote:

Devlish2 said:
Quote:

thelivingfreekshow said:
Cops are paid bullies.
Nothing more.:ugh:




They are also hired goons.




Yeah notice how like 4/5 of the "park police" had the body of the Hulk incarnate, cloned and having come back in time
Quote:



Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

thelivingfreekshow said:
That cop is so ignorant. he cant even tell them what law theyre breaking!




yes he did right at the beginning of the video, he said "I'll give you our
warnings, if you come here to protest by dancing then you will be arrested"


gotta have a permit for a protest





Assuming they were vocally protesting before the video starts.  How is slow dancing a protest, they're a group that share belief systems and dance in their collective mourning like people have done for thousands of years?




The hulk bit, really?  Their job involves having people fuck with them, wouldn't you wanna be built?  I'm equally as built as most cops I know, it's not that difficult to achieve.

And yes, if it is protesting a monument that has that many people for security, you need a fucking permit.  He tried to warn them, they didn't listen.


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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: unam sanctum]
    #14528943 - 05/29/11 12:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

unam sanctum said:
Quote:

Devlish2 said:
Quote:

thelivingfreekshow said:
Cops are paid bullies.
Nothing more.:ugh:




They are also hired goons.




Yeah notice how like 4/5 of the "park police" had the body of the Hulk incarnate, cloned and having come back in time
Quote:



Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

thelivingfreekshow said:
That cop is so ignorant. he cant even tell them what law theyre breaking!




yes he did right at the beginning of the video, he said "I'll give you our
warnings, if you come here to protest by dancing then you will be arrested"


gotta have a permit for a protest





Assuming they were vocally protesting before the video starts.  How is slow dancing a protest, they're a group that share belief systems and dance in their collective mourning like people have done for thousands of years?




I think this was a protest.  There was a case in 2008 that was closer to what you describe.  I think this was in response to a decision in that case.  I might be wrong, I've only done a bit of reading on this so far.  And indeed, permits are required for protests in DC parks.

On a human level though, the optics of this are terrible.  Because when you get right down to it, people are being roughed up for dancing.  And I don't think that this could reasonably be seen as any legitimate threat to safety.  Police takedowns do more to hinder the public's enjoyment of the monument than some folks dancing.

A lot of harmless people feel less safe upon seeing a police car these days.  That's a problem.

Edit: bbl, do you know where that skiing ostrich came from?  That's fantastic.


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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: PhantomPower] * 1
    #14529053 - 05/29/11 01:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Okay the cop says if you dance in here youre protesting.
So, no matter why you might be dancing he is going to interpret your dancing as a protest, no matter the context or reason for it, you will be arrested because for some reason, as soon as you step into the memorial dancing gets you body slammed, dryhumped, and arrested by Nazi douchebags. I really hate his attempt of compliance thru fear by telling them they'll be in jail for a weekend if theyre from out of town.
Im                                                  interested in hearing more about this...anyone know anything more?:shrug:

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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: Devlish2]
    #14529056 - 05/29/11 01:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Devlish2 said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
gotta have a permit for a protest




That's ridiculous.





it's the law

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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14529062 - 05/29/11 01:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I knew you were going to post that an hour ago.


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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: unam sanctum]
    #14529065 - 05/29/11 01:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

unam sanctum said:
Assuming they were vocally protesting before the video starts.  How is slow dancing a protest, they're a group that share belief systems and dance in their collective mourning like people have done for thousands of years?





dance ins are the latest craze, when a dozen or so people strut into places
and start dancing it's a good indicator that you have one happening in your
midst, just because you didt see what happened before the cop walked over
doesnt mean they werent already becoming obnoxious

it's not like these jackasses are completely unknown either

http://www.pcworld.com/article/228918/dancing_in_apple_retail_stores_this_time_in_protest.html

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=41&sid=2401484

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110318/tr_ac/8091022_liberal_groups_protest_at_ohio_restaurant_leaves_patrons_confused

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20668.htm

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Re: Will dancing at memorials be legalized in our lifetime? [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #14529075 - 05/29/11 01:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

thelivingfreekshow said:
Okay the cop says if you dance in here youre protesting.
So, no matter why you might be dancing he is going to interpret your dancing as a protest, no matter the context or reason for it, you will be arrested because for some reason, as soon as you step into the memorial dancing gets you body slammed,





no, they were given a warning and they resisted, resist and you get body
slammed, the first couple and several others simply were handcuffed, it's
fine if you wanna hype it up like it was something it wasnt though, the
video shows the truth

even the teamsters have gotten in on the act

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/02/19/838580/-Teamsters-Sing,-Dance-in-Protest-at-DC-Auto-Show
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2707401/posts

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