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Re: Whats the biological purpose? [Re: snoot]
#14564370 - 06/05/11 11:54 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Whats the biological purpose? [Re: x7x_x7x]
#14564433 - 06/05/11 12:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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x7x_x7x said:

my thoughts exactly
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Re: Whats the biological purpose? [Re: x7x_x7x]
#14567735 - 06/06/11 01:46 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Shins said: I don't know how much i can trust the "defense mechanism" theory.
Many mushrooms take advantage of animals consuming them in order to spread their spores, so it could just as easily be for that reason.
I'd say there are observations that support the defence mechanism hypothesis and seem to contradict the attraction hypothesis.
Psilocybin is present in higher concentrations in pins, aborts, and immature fruits which contain few if any viable spores. It is counter-productive to have an animal eat your fruits before they're mature enough to reproduce. Psylocybin production slows down around the time the mushroom matures, opens its cap, and spreads its genetic goodness.
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absolute zero said:
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Shins said: I don't know how much i can trust the "defense mechanism" theory.
Many mushrooms take advantage of animals consuming them in order to spread their spores, so it could just as easily be for that reason.
I'd say there are observations that support the defence mechanism hypothesis and seem to contradict the attraction hypothesis.
Psilocybin is present in higher concentrations in pins, aborts, and immature fruits which contain few if any viable spores. It is counter-productive to have an animal eat your fruits before they're mature enough to reproduce. Psylocybin production slows down around the time the mushroom matures, opens its cap, and spreads its genetic goodness.
What you are saying about psilocybin production is highly wariable, and not true.
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absolute zero said:
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Shins said: I don't know how much i can trust the "defense mechanism" theory.
Many mushrooms take advantage of animals consuming them in order to spread their spores, so it could just as easily be for that reason.
I'd say there are observations that support the defence mechanism hypothesis and seem to contradict the attraction hypothesis.
Psilocybin is present in higher concentrations in pins, aborts, and immature fruits which contain few if any viable spores. It is counter-productive to have an animal eat your fruits before they're mature enough to reproduce. Psylocybin production slows down around the time the mushroom matures, opens its cap, and spreads its genetic goodness.
maybe its done like that so when its time for spores to be unleashed it already has an ample amount of goodies to supply the eater.
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Re: Whats the biological purpose? [Re: snoot]
#14580923 - 06/08/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't believe it has any purpose. It's merely a metabolic by-product that's produced somewhere along the life-cycle of the species. Doesn't mean it's not beautiful, though!
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Re: Whats the biological purpose? [Re: Incarnation]
#14580954 - 06/08/11 05:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Whats the biological purpose? [Re: FeelsGoodMan]
#14603787 - 06/13/11 12:12 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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As Deekay stated, it is a secondary metabolite.
"Secondary metabolites are organic compounds that are not directly involved in the normal growth, development, or reproduction of an organism.[1] Unlike primary metabolites, absence of secondary metabolities does not result in immediate death, but rather in long-term impairment of the organism's survivability, fecundity, or aesthetics, or perhaps in no significant change at all. Secondary metabolites are often restricted to a narrow set of species within a phylogenetic group.[2] Secondary metabolites often play an important role in plant defense against herbivory[3] and other interspecies defenses. Humans use secondary metabolites as medicines, flavorings, and recreational drugs."
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Re: Whats the biological purpose? [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
#14663689 - 06/24/11 03:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would certainly say that any psychedelic chemicals that naturally occur in any plants are defense mechanisms. Imagine if you didn't even know what tripping was and you just ate some salad. Suddenly you're out your mind and you have no idea why. You'd freak the fuck out and would definitely steer clear of salad in the future.
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Re: Whats the biological purpose? [Re: Darwin23]
#14665834 - 06/24/11 02:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Darwin23 said: I would certainly say that any psychedelic chemicals that naturally occur in any plants are defense mechanisms. Imagine if you didn't even know what tripping was and you just ate some salad. Suddenly you're out your mind and you have no idea why. You'd freak the fuck out and would definitely steer clear of salad in the future.
lol assuming all animals are affected by such compounds,.
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