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Re: Loosing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: babz89]
#14531064 - 05/29/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Call it a reality thread for lack of a better description... (god I can't believe I made that comparison)
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Re: Loosing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: babz89]
#14531819 - 05/29/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Losing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: babz89]
#14532003 - 05/29/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You need to eat 3 healthy small meals a day and eat two health snacks. A portion of meat (not processed), a complex carbohydrate (pasta, oatmeal, rice, potato), veggies like spinnache, and for fats you want stuff like peanuts, almonds or flaxseed oil.
your snacks could be a protein shake, a slim fast, or possible a healthy snack bar.
On workout days you should even increase meals to 6 by adding an extra snack.
By eating small meals more often combined with exercise you metablism will fire up.
As for weight training. Innefecient exercise, total body (core), and short rest periods. If your new to weight lifting you probably want to start out with reps of 15 with 60 seconds rest. A protein shake immediatly after your workout.
You should do burst cardio before you weight training. Any kind of cardio is fine. Say you want to do it on a bike. You pedal 1 minute as fast as you can, then go for 2 minutes at a medium pace, then another minute as hard as you can... and so forth. This kind of exercise strikes up your metabolism.
Working out will be the easy part. Eating small meals and snacks will be the hard part. Tame you hunger. Its going to be tough but you can do it.
I recomend Lou schuler and Alwyn cosgroves 'The New Rules of Lifting for Men'.
The fatloss programs in there are spectacular. They are created for someone your size. They will first trim off some fat, then add some strength and muscle, and then in the final stage remove the rest of the fat. The final stage of fatloss in this book is the most grueling sick demented feindish fatlass I have ever seen. But it works like a fuckin charm.
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Re: Losing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: XUL]
#14532041 - 05/29/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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snacks are small meals about 100g of whatever semantics about 4 to 6 small meals... protein shakes are a bad idea as a snack but breakfast oh yeah I am following a specific diet ladies and gentle men please. I got it mapped out already....
As for exercise I am following the Lose 12 in. in 14 days as a base line and progressively climbing in difficulty.
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Re: Losing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: babz89]
#14532087 - 05/29/11 06:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You need to eat 3 healthy small meals a day and eat two health snacks. A portion of meat (not processed), a complex carbohydrate (pasta, oatmeal, rice, potato), veggies like spinnache, and for fats you want stuff like peanuts, almonds or flaxseed oil.
your snacks could be a protein shake, a slim fast, or possible a healthy snack bar.
On workout days you should even increase meals to 6 by adding an extra snack.
By eating small meals more often combined with exercise you metablism will fire up.
As for weight training. Innefecient exercise, total body (core), and short rest periods. If your new to weight lifting you probably want to start out with reps of 15 with 60 seconds rest. A protein shake immediatly after your workout.
You should do burst cardio before you weight training. Any kind of cardio is fine. Say you want to do it on a bike. You pedal 1 minute as fast as you can, then go for 2 minutes at a medium pace, then another minute as hard as you can... and so forth. This kind of exercise strikes up your metabolism.
Working out will be the easy part. Eating small meals and snacks will be the hard part. Tame you hunger. Its going to be tough but you can do it.
I recomend Lou schuler and Alwyn cosgroves 'The New Rules of Lifting for Men'.
The fatloss programs in there are spectacular. They are created for someone your size. They will first trim off some fat, then add some strength and muscle, and then in the final stage remove the rest of the fat. The final stage of fatloss in this book is the most grueling sick demented feindish fatlass I have ever seen. But it works like a fuckin charm.
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babz89 said: snacks are small meals about 100g of whatever semantics about 4 to 6 small meals... protein shakes are a bad idea as a snack but breakfast oh yeah I am following a specific diet ladies and gentle men please. I got it mapped out already....
As for exercise I am following the Lose 12 in. in 14 days as a base line and progressively climbing in difficulty.
ARe you weight training? explain your training.
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Re: Losing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: XUL]
#14532144 - 05/29/11 06:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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XUL said: The final stage of fatloss in this book is the most grueling sick demented feindish fatlass I have ever seen. But it works like a fuckin charm.
can you elaborate? im interested
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Re: Losing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: foliocb]
#14532181 - 05/29/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Starts with different styles of cardio and body weight training (weightless) I will go into the details a lil later but it switches back and fourth day to day for 6 days on the 7th day I do a rest day of yoga to keep muscles lean and flexible and on week to of my workout you 'make it harder' by doing more of the routine with harder adaptions of said work outs and for the "rest day" of that week I plan to do some core/leg pellaties
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Re: Loosing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: babz89]
#14540225 - 05/31/11 11:13 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I am having a shitty time getting on to a solid routine and working out. At least I am making healthier choices for the food I eat and I am getting good portioning down. I am having trouble getting up at the same time every day and going to bed at a reasonable hour. Any suggestions?
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Re: Loosing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: babz89]
#14541594 - 05/31/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't think you have to have a precise time when you start and end your routine but its important to do everything you set out to do that specific day one way or the other. Sometimes I have things to do and can't workout at the same time every time but if say I want to burn 1500 calories for the day I do a 1000 when I can then the 500 later at night or whatever. 3400? calories is a pound so you have to do cardio more than anything especially at that weight to see results fast. No offense or anything but I don't think doing things like yoga or pilates is gonna do shit...hop on the bike, treadmill, whatever and just burn as much as you can.
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Re: Loosing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: thodub]
#14541750 - 05/31/11 05:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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the yoga and pilates are for my "static rest" days for when I have down time between workouts... So they are for being active even though I am "resting" I thought I already explained that but I guess not...
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Re: Loosing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: babz89]
#14541781 - 05/31/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just do cardio everyday 6 days a week rest 1 day seriously I think you should get a trainer if you cannot motivate yourself which there is nothing wrong with doing.
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Re: Loosing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: babz89]
#14545285 - 06/01/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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babz89 said: Carbs are necessary to an extent for females. If you completely starve yourself of carbs your body begins eating your brain. Why do you think there are more reported complications and deaths of women on AtkinsTM
This is simply not true. Do you have any evidence/studies to back up this claim?
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Re: Loosing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: babz89]
#14545659 - 06/01/11 01:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I really think the Atkins diet is good science...studies have shown that a protein diet will produce a much leaner look...the concept of forcing your body to burn fat rather than "extra carbs" is pretty good. I personally think its one of the best diets out there
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Re: Loosing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: thodub]
#14545851 - 06/01/11 01:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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thodub said: I really think the Atkins diet is good science...studies have shown that a protein diet will produce a much leaner look...the concept of forcing your body to burn fat rather than "extra carbs" is pretty good. I personally think its one of the best diets out there
Protein is such bullshit lol
Most people don't need more than 50 grams of protein a day. If you're a heavy lifter 100+ is fine but most normal people exercising don't need that much. Eating healthy fats and carbs is more important. People have it assbackward its so funny. You can even take out the carbs if you want, you can live off fat and protein too. Infact, your body will adapt to pretty much whatever the fuck you feed it.
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Re: Loosing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: thodub]
#14545865 - 06/01/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Atkins diet KILLS people. Especially WOMEN, starving your body of carbohydrates and sugars (glucose) Is just a medical disaster waiting to happen. Low blood sugar (from starving yourself of these things) causes fatigue, irregular sleeping patters, restlessness, dizziness, confusion, nausea, headaches, impaired judgment, irritability, delirium, and in acute cases (sudden onset) even death. So no thanks I'll pass.
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Re: Loosing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: babz89]
#14545969 - 06/01/11 02:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think more then enough carbs can be obtained through fruits and vegetables. Grains will only hinder your progress, but since we're so used to eating so much of it on a daily basis, I really don't expect most people to have the discipline to cut it out completely. But hey... it would yield the best results
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Re: Loosing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: foliocb]
#14547827 - 06/01/11 08:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Actually that would be the difference between simple carbs anf complex. you need both to survive but you need less simple carbs (i.e table sugar) to lose weight.
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Re: Loosing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: babz89]
#14548684 - 06/01/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/04/06/how-to-lose-20-lbs-of-fat-in-30-days-without-doing-any-exercise/
How to Lose 20 lbs. of Fat in 30 Days… Without Doing Any Exercise 4,183 Comments
Written by Tim Ferriss Topics: Physical Performance, The 4-Hour Body, Uncategorized Fat Loss via Better Science and Simplicity
It is possible to lose 20 lbs. of bodyfat in 30 days by optimizing any of three factors: exercise, diet, or drug/supplement regimen. I’ve seen the elite implementation of all three in working with professional athletes. In this post, we’ll explore what I refer to as the “slow-carb diet”.
In the last six weeks, I have cut from about 180 lbs. to 165 lbs., while adding about 10 lbs. of muscle, which means I’ve lost about 25 lbs. of fat. This is the only diet besides the rather extreme Cyclical Ketogenic Diet (CKD) that has produced veins across my abdomen, which is the last place I lose fat (damn you, Scandinavian genetics). Here are the four simple rules I followed…
Rule #1: Avoid “white” carbohydrates
Avoid any carbohydrate that is — or can be — white. The following foods are thus prohibited, except for within 1.5 hours of finishing a resistance-training workout of at least 20 minutes in length: bread, rice, cereal, potatoes, pasta, and fried food with breading. If you avoid eating anything white, you’ll be safe.
Rule #2: Eat the same few meals over and over again
The most successful dieters, regardless of whether their goal is muscle gain or fat loss, eat the same few meals over and over again. Mix and match, constructing each meal with one from each of the three following groups:
Proteins: Egg whites with one whole egg for flavor Chicken breast or thigh Grass-fed organic beef Pork
Legumes: Lentils Black beans Pinto beans
Vegetables: Spinach Asparagus Peas Mixed vegetables
Eat as much as you like of the above food items. Just remember: keep it simple. Pick three or four meals and repeat them. Almost all restaurants can give you a salad or vegetables in place of french fries or potatoes. Surprisingly, I have found Mexican food, swapping out rice for vegetables, to be one of the cuisines most conducive to the “slow carb” diet.
Most people who go on “low” carbohydrate diets complain of low energy and quit, not because such diets can’t work, but because they consume insufficient calories. A 1/2 cup of rice is 300 calories, whereas a 1/2 cup of spinach is 15 calories! Vegetables are not calorically dense, so it is critical that you add legumes for caloric load.
Some athletes eat 6-8x per day to break up caloric load and avoid fat gain. I think this is ridiculously inconvenient. I eat 4x per day:
10am – breakfast 1pm – lunch 5pm – smaller second lunch 7:30-9pm – sports training 10pm – dinner 12am – glass of wine and Discovery Channel before bed
Here are some of my meals that recur again and again:
breakfast-wince.jpg Scrambled Eggology pourable egg whites with one whole egg, black beans, and microwaved mixed vegetables lunch-wince.jpg Grass-fed organic beef, pinto beans, mixed vegetables, and extra guacamole (Mexican restaurant) dinner-wince.jpg Grass-fed organic beef (from Trader Joe’s), lentils, and mixed vegetables pizza-wince.jpg Post-workout pizza with extra chicken, cilantro, pineapple, garlic, sundried tomotoes, bell peppers, and red onions
Rule #3: Don’t drink calories
Drink massive quantities of water and as much unsweetened iced tea, tea, diet sodas, coffee (without white cream), or other no-calorie/low-calorie beverages as you like. Do not drink milk, normal soft drinks, or fruit juice. I’m a wine fanatic and have at least one glass of wine each evening, which I believe actually aids sports recovery and fat-loss. Recent research into resveratrol supports this.
Rule #4: Take one day off per week
I recommend Saturdays as your “Dieters Gone Wild” day. I am allowed to eat whatever I want on Saturdays, and I go out of my way to eat ice cream, Snickers, Take 5, and all of my other vices in excess. I make myself a little sick and don’t want to look at any of it for the rest of the week. Paradoxically, dramatically spiking caloric intake in this way once per week increases fat loss by ensuring that your metabolic rate (thyroid function, etc.) doesn’t downregulate from extended caloric restriction. That’s right: eating pure crap can help you lose fat. Welcome to Utopia.
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Re: Loosing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: Azure Essence]
#14553796 - 06/03/11 12:36 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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XUL i keep reading you as that avatar guy talking. i cant take any of your shit serious.
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Re: Losing weight for the Ugly Betty... [Re: foliocb]
#14553887 - 06/03/11 01:05 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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XUL said: The final stage of fatloss in this book is the most grueling sick demented feindish fatlass I have ever seen. But it works like a fuckin charm.
can you elaborate? im interested
Sure.
Before you start the weight workouts you will do burst cardio which as I said before is sprinting for 1 minute and then continuing at a medium pace for 2 minutes and repeat. At this final stage in fatloss you will have worked up to doing 6 rounds (3 minutes each, 28 total minutes for 1 session), 5 times a week.
Workout A
-Giant set 1, tempo: 311(3 being the negative)
Deadlift 12 reps Explosive pushup 12 reps bulgarian split squat 12 reps two-point dumbell row 12 reps ----60 seconds rest and then repeat 3 more times.
-Giant set 2, tempo: 311
Deadlift off box 20 reps dumbell bench press 20 reps walking lunge with side bend 20 reps cable seated row 20 reps ----60 seconds rest and then repeat 1 more time
The workout itself is really hard but combined with the burst cardio and 311 tempo, the workout is killer.
There is more to the workouts but I cant sit here and give away these guys entire book. Thats just mean.
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