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OfflineCynosure
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Harmaline extract + (mini follow-up added)
    #14515753 - 05/26/11 02:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I need a bit of help with figuring out the correct dosage for a MAOI.  Some friends and I plan on taking this before a mushroom trip.  Before I go on, we are following strict dietary restrictions and plan on fasting the day of.  We're hoping for a pleasantly intense trip.

We've purchased a MAOI extract (labeled Harmaline extract, 5x).  It claims to have 75ml of alkaloids in each dropper.  This is a bit confusing to me and was wondering if anyone could help us out.

I know that a decent dosage of Syrian Rue is 2-3g.  I also have read that up to 150mg of extract is near equivalent to this.  However, there aren't very many sources to confirm this.

So, what would you suggest?  Should we go with one dropperful (75ml), two (150ml), or more?!

Many thanks!
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Edited by Cynosure (06/02/11 09:31 AM)

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Re: Harmaline extract + [Re: Cynosure]
    #14528082 - 05/28/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Bumping, and hoping for some sort of closely related experience.


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Re: Harmaline extract + [Re: Cynosure]
    #14528154 - 05/28/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

idk the answer but this might help your search

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Pharmahuasca
For pharmahuasca, 100 mg N,N-DMT and 50 mg harmaline is usually the recommended dosage per person. However, combinations of 50 mg harmaline, 50 mg harmine, and 50 mg, N,N-DMT have also been tested with success. As a rule, the fewer the β-carbolines, the less the nausea; the more DMT, the more spectacular the visions. The constituents are put into separate gelatin capsules. The capsules with harmaline/harmine is swallowed first and the capsule containing the DMT is taken some fifteen to twenty minutes later. The purely synthetic MAO inhibitor Marplan is also suitable in place of harmaline and harmine (Ott 1996, 34).

-Erowid.org




so if its 5x concentrate you might need to use less. I'm not sure how much less


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Re: Harmaline extract + [Re: FrenchFryed]
    #14528454 - 05/28/11 10:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I would say that depending on how much you have you could purify it further.
But a general sublingual dose is between 75mg and 150mg. Oral dose is 150-300mg, and smoked dose is 75-200mg. approx.


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Re: Harmaline extract + [Re: shadowman-x]
    #14536986 - 05/30/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:sunny:


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Edited by Cynosure (05/31/11 01:17 PM)

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Re: Harmaline extract + [Re: Cynosure]
    #14537066 - 05/30/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Cynosure said:
Thanks for the information, guys!

There seems to be a lot of us joining in on this now.  We will each be taking 2.5-3.5 grams with 150-225mg of the harmaline extract fourty minutes prior!

T-minus 3 hours!




Let us know how it goes! Good vibes to you!


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Re: Harmaline extract + [Re: DesignatedTripper]
    #14537076 - 05/30/11 06:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

good vibes :bow2:
you should do a trip report


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Re: Harmaline extract + [Re: FrenchFryed]
    #14537399 - 05/30/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i saw the same extract was thinking of using it before i eat some deemz. it says its 75mg of alkaloids not ml per dropper btw.


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Re: Harmaline extract + [Re: DiscoBiscuitsTrip]
    #14537424 - 05/30/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:sunny:


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Re: Harmaline extract + [Re: Cynosure]
    #14537853 - 05/30/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

how is it going?

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Re: Harmaline extract + [Re: C1SK83R]
    #14550087 - 06/02/11 09:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ended up taking ~185mg of Harmaline and 3.5g of shrooms.

I must admit, it was probably the best trip of my life.  I don't remember a lot from the peak (but I kinda blame that on us smoking so much) but the whole trip was so intense.  I never really felt like it plateaued out, I just kept getting higher and higher until I started coming down.

This isn't a full trip report, but just a quick, sloppy taste:

During the most intense part, I remember not being able to think completely in english.  I tried so hard to remember english.. but I kept thinking in some weird tongue, still somehow understanding it all.  Weird characters, symbols, etc. flooded my eyes, and when I closed them I could see a web (much like mycelium, but more organized) that I knew as "everything".  I was traveling through this web like a nutrient through a mycelial network.  At one point we all went for a walk.  It was ridiculous because I could see everyone freaking out, even though I wasn't.  I did my best to keep them calm and we ended up turning around.  I felt like a robot autoprogrammed to walk-I couldn't stop.  Everything was so beautiful and mesmerizing.  Basic geometric shapes formed in the night sky.  They were all completely lost and worrying about a car/cop rolling by.. but luckily I still somehow knew where we were and exactly how to get back.

I was hoping to do some self-exploration during the trip and assumed this would come at the peak like it so often does on various psychedelics.. but it seemed as if the mushroom was letting me explore and have some fun before bombarding me with things I could fix.  No insights, introspective looks at my life, or anything of the sort came until I was coming down.  It made me extremely sad to think about some of the things (mainly how I've become so distant from my parents and how the same trait seemed to be appearing between me and the girlie).  I'm already on the up to mend these relationships.

All-in-all it was fantastic.  I was tripping with four other people.  Two took 7g without the MAOI, and the other two took the same dosage as me.  They all found it to be a bit too intense.  I feel as if I would definitely like to repeat this, without the weed, and possibly go for a higher dose.

I will, however, be trying 3.5g of shrooms by itself come a month.  I'd like to see how it compares.

I'll post a trip report just before my next trip come a months time.


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Edited by Cynosure (06/02/11 09:41 AM)

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