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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: Chemical Addiction]
    #16662928 - 08/07/12 08:01 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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i'm about to make dinner so i'll find you some links later if no one else answers but i must insist you put the extention cord/all electric above the plants. Water and things that recieve water go below the waste, and electricity goes above the waist in a grow room
nice plants btw
Edit: Welcome to the E.G.




Yes i noticed the unfortunate position of my cords when i uploaded my pic. Its already taken care of. Thanks for reminding me tho its my first growroom and are thrilled to finally have one. Well enjoy your meal and if you got some info for me i would be happy to hear it. Cheers!


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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: inkompetent]
    #16663259 - 08/07/12 08:50 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Now my chilli has to get 13-14 hours of light per day for fruit developement. I want to know if my seedlings are okay with that amount of light. Also the light are in the red spectrum (wrong word?). So basically can my seedlings handle the light condition that are optimized for my flowering chili's? What will the lack of "blue light" do to my little cacti?





With adults you can usually tell within a day if the light is too low and will take a bit longer to tell if theres not enough light, the plant will tell you. I would put the seedlings under on a day off and check them periodically. If its too much light for them and not the adults the move the further out you dont have to move the light.
As for light spectrum i am just using flouros atm and i have a T8 shoplight that puts out half as much light as my T5's with bulbs from  the hydro store, The cacti still grow under it but not as quickly and i have it really close so they dont etiolate.

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The problem with HPS potentially is that cacti are supposed to grow skinnier when red light predominates



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Heres another post asking about lighting for cactus there are too many for me to look through right now.


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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: Chemical Addiction]
    #16663288 - 08/07/12 08:56 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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i'm about to make dinner so i'll find you some links later if no one else answers but i must insist you put the extention cord/all electric above the plants. Water and things that recieve water go below the waste, and electricity goes above the waist in a grow room
nice plants btw
Edit: Welcome to the E.G.




Yes i noticed the unfortunate position of my cords when i uploaded my pic. Its already taken care of. Thanks for reminding me tho its my first growroom and are thrilled to finally have one. Well enjoy your meal and if you got some info for me i would be happy to hear it. Cheers!
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Now my chilli has to get 13-14 hours of light per day for fruit developement. I want to know if my seedlings are okay with that amount of light. Also the light are in the red spectrum (wrong word?). So basically can my seedlings handle the light condition that are optimized for my flowering chili's? What will the lack of "blue light" do to my little cacti?





With adults you can usually tell within a day if the light is too low and will take a bit longer to tell if theres not enough light, the plant will tell you. I would put the seedlings under on a day off and check them periodically. If its too much light for them and not the adults the move the further out you dont have to move the light.
As for light spectrum i am just using flouros atm and i have a T8 shoplight that puts out half as much light as my T5's with bulbs from  the hydro store, The cacti still grow under it but not as quickly and i have it really close so they dont etiolate.

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The problem with HPS potentially is that cacti are supposed to grow skinnier when red light predominates



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Heres another post asking about lighting for cactus there are too many for me to look through right now.




Thank you very much will give it all a read a bit later. Appreciate the help. Much love!


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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: inkompetent]
    #16684529 - 08/11/12 10:05 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

here

these guys were started on 5/15 all caespiatosa


trich - authentic peru from wss --- thanks mane! :laugh: 5/28 i believe





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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: FlashLightning]
    #16684538 - 08/11/12 10:06 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

these are only 15 days behind the really nice looking caespiatosa...unfortunately i underwatered these babies at one point...caespiatosa on left texana on right you can tell the dif

what WAS my first successful graft been on for 3 days looking beautiful, right after i took the pics i put its plastic bag humidity dome over it and knocked off the graft :facepalm: :facepalm: someone please help me with grafting im pretty clueless

here was a caespiatosa i put outside, got to much water, started to rot, this would be my second potential graft but it may have rot in it so fingers crossed it makes it without rot


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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: FlashLightning]
    #16684580 - 08/11/12 10:14 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

The 'Peruvian?' looks OK to me but idk. Did you glue the caespiatosa?


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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: modern.shaman]
    #16684621 - 08/11/12 10:19 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

@flash grafting seedlings is some what difficult, and grafting to pereskiopsis is too, try larger cacti on larger stocks first and you should have better success. Having a sterile blade is necessary, with the exception of my attempts on pereskiopsis, fungi/bacteria are the main reasons my grafts have failed. I dont even need to use a humidity dome on my grafts onto large stocks. I've tried with and without and had good success both ways.


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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: Chemical Addiction]
    #16685752 - 08/12/12 02:42 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the tips Chem addict :smile:

Both grafts are simply held together by gravity and cactus slime. How would one normally graft to pereskiopsis with highest success ?  Modern shaman said something of glue?


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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: FlashLightning]
    #16686240 - 08/12/12 06:50 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i believe just the cactus slime holds it on, you have to be careful not to knock it off and make sure the humidity stays up. I dont have much experience with pereskiopsis grafts, I tried last nov/dec but i too kept knocking it off or didn't keep the humidity up. People use quite a few different ways to keep humidty up, as i'm sure you've seen while looking through the posts here in the E.G. I think i will try using the corner of a ziplock bag and a small rubber band and be very careful. Water the stock and scion well the night before and that should be good enough as long as you dont knock it off, If you have clumsy finger like me you might have trouble, I should probably give it another go. I just suggested using larger stock/scions because its easier. you'll have to search for other peoples posts on pereskiopsis grafts who are successful


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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: Chemical Addiction]
    #16686271 - 08/12/12 07:05 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Cool man this clears it up a good bit. I was doing plastic bag method and was having trouble. Honestly I think the easist would be a large clear Tupperware tote like the ones they use as PMP for shrums. If you just put it in there once w an easy close lid that way you don't have to put your hands near the stock when spraying them and what not. Just a thought


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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: FlashLightning]
    #16686288 - 08/12/12 07:20 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

another method for pereskiopsis
jump to 4mins to see how the scion is applied and then kept in place



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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #16686318 - 08/12/12 07:29 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

thanks for posting that video mostly some great ideas there :thumbup:


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    #16686400 - 08/12/12 08:03 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

nice video mostly. do you apply those techniques yourself? loves the little plastic strip sitting on the measured out stock. you could find a tote similar to hers but nicer and any hydro store, used for cloning marijuana :thumbup:


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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: FlashLightning]
    #16686677 - 08/12/12 09:41 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Thanks for the tips Chem addict :smile:

Both grafts are simply held together by gravity and cactus slime. How would one normally graft to pereskiopsis with highest success ?  Modern shaman said something of glue?




Don't use glue it just looks like you did the way it calloused over.

I personally don't water the pereskiopsis a few days before attempting to graft, the times I have the scion was pushed off from too much juices. To keep the humidity high I place a bottle on top and spray the walls of the bottle once a day. After 3 days I remove the bottle cap than after 2 day I remove completely. Once you do enough you will find your own technique.

You can also try karode13 technique
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16614768#16614768

It's similar to 'next generation grafting' tek


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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: modern.shaman]
    #16686745 - 08/12/12 10:03 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

:rockon: another great video. thanks shaman!

i recut the torch and peres and smushed them together again, and placed them in a much more secure dome. wish me luck


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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: FlashLightning]
    #16686762 - 08/12/12 10:09 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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nice video mostly. do you apply those techniques yourself? loves the little plastic strip sitting on the measured out stock. you could find a tote similar to hers but nicer and any hydro store, used for cloning marijuana :thumbup:




Nope not tried it myself yet, just posting up for others! :smile:


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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #16686951 - 08/12/12 10:59 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I've had buds on my PC pachanoi for almost two months, is this somewhat normal on some trichs or am i doing something wrong? i moved it so it gets more light about 2 weeks ago because it was etiolating a bit. They look healthy to me....


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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: Chemical Addiction] * 1
    #16689411 - 08/12/12 07:44 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know if it's the usual thing but it's not a problem. The buds can go dormant for a while and then all of a sudden start blooming. I had the same thing happen back in 2009. Buds sat dormant for about 3 or 4 months before this...



If there was a problem with the buds, they'd probably begin to rot and fall off.


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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: Mufungo]
    #16689539 - 08/12/12 08:02 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

awesome time lapse mufungo i love those, thanks for the reply


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Re: Official Thread for Cacti That Don't Need a Separate Thread [Re: Mufungo]
    #16689622 - 08/12/12 08:12 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I agree the buds can seem to get to that stage and do nothing for a while and then they take off again.
That is a cool time lapse Mufungo. I love Trich flowers I just don't see enough of them  :sad:

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