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OfflineCuriousMind

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Re: To HELL with the DEA *DELETED* [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14526624 - 05/28/11 02:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: CuriousMind] * 1
    #14526649 - 05/28/11 02:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Actually yes the DEA has played a the largest part in directly ruining millions of American lives for little to no reason at all. I myself have been directly effected a lot more than most people.




the DEA wasnt even in existence when congress passed the drug laws, the DEA wasnt around when people were first getting busted, the DEA wasnt around until the early 70s and the DEA certainly didnt make anyone go out and break a law, they simply did the job they're paid to do

the DEA isnt some group that got together one day and said "hey. let's make weed illegal and go lock people up for it" no, the were created by congress to enforce laws passed by congress

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I've got chronic pain, and I will require opioids and medicinal cannabis for the next 20-30 years provided I don't die. So I guess I should blame myself for having a disease that ruins my life without proper medication. I guess I have but myself to blame for risking being thrown in prison so that I can use my medication.





you are not the majority of drug users, you're only a single out of tens
of millions that use drugs, so now let me ask, exactly what disease would
one have that requires the unprescribed use of opiates?

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Sure, I can blame politicians, and ignorant Americans who support the DEA. And guess what, I do. But it's the DEA itself brain-washing these sheep to begin with. So they are the ones who really deserve the heat.




you misinterpret what I've said, it's not those tha support the DEA you need to blame, it's those that support legalization and then do absolutely nothing

so let me ask, when's the last time you voted?

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Re: To HELL with the DEA *DELETED* [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14526750 - 05/28/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: CuriousMind]
    #14526947 - 05/28/11 04:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

cannabus only works on some types of pain

others it does nothing

doctors when hard pressed will script u any med u just need to play them

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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: CuriousMind]
    #14526967 - 05/28/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Theirs not much I can really do, I sign petitions and stuff... Perhaps maybe I'll write a book one day. But I live in a commonwealth and we are conservative.





I guess you're unaware that conservatives tend to be more open to
legalization, as for petitions, dont waste your time, petitions are
pointless and stupid, politicians pay attention to the guy with the news
crew in his office lobby, if you can vote on the state level that's fine
but why not suggest to your state reps that marijuana needs to be
addressed instead of sitting around waiting for them to address it

are you aware that Georgia, a bible belt state is the first state to have
passed a medical marijuana law back in 1980, not many states are more
conservative than Georgia

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I'm 20 years old, and with an unknown wide-spread chronic nerve pain disease in over half my body.
I am prescribed opiates now, it took a year and a half. I tried 15 different drugs, I've taken an 2 MRIs, 1 CAT_Scan, 2 X-Rays, nerve conduction (I think?) and muscle tests, but they have no clue why I'm in pain. And also coincidentally still paying the damn medical bills and can no longer even afford to figure out what disease I have.




if I take my car to a mechanic and that mechanic cant figure out what's
wrong with it I'm not paying, it's really simple, doctards are tards for a
reason, because they check the book and if they get tired of looking
before they figure it out then it's an unknown disease. in 20 years I've
been to a doctard twice, both times I asked to have a specific test run to
eliminate the most probable ailment, one doctard ran the test, took five
minutes and cost $150, the other decided to run every test he could
including a half dozen I asked him not to run since I knew I wasnt having
a heart attack, the only test he didnt run... the one I asked for.
his bill totaled $3800... can you guess which doctard didnt get paid?

that's right, the one that didnt listen to his patient



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^---- The DEA are the ones going on the witch hunts and scaring all the decent doctors away. The cannabis issues have been around a long time, but it is the DEA who has fucked the sick people and the ones with terminal illnesses.





THE DEA DOES NOT MAKE THE LAWS, TALK TO YOUR ELECTED REPRESENTATVES AND
TALK TO BARACK 'THE ASSHOLE' OBAMA, you remember Obama, the one that said
he wouldnt go after the medical patients, the one that said he'd stop the
raids on dispensaries, the one that lied 100 times over.

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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: Coaster]
    #14526975 - 05/28/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If you have chronic pain,(no pun intended) They will per scribe you any thing- I know a lady thats a  burn victim(20pct)  And she Gets like 250mg oxy a day and 300mmg 0f fentanyl patches- She even says it over kill, Prolly cuz she gone to the hospital for a couple Od's Lol (cuz she banged the oxy)

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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14527288 - 05/28/11 05:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

People who think that cannabis revenues would decrease if cannabis were legalized are seriously misunderstanding market economics.

The assumption is that cannabis flowers which are smoked are the primary or only product of the cannabis plant.  A second assumption is made that the price is abnormally inflated due to prohibition such that any effects legalization would have would be moderated by the price difference in cannabis (prices of dried flowers would plummet).


What's being completely ignored is the literally HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of INDIVIDUALS let alone firms and corporations that are interested in and would be growing cannabis for its myriad uses.  When I say myriad I mean it literally has no equal in the world of versatility.  Cannabis can be marketed to so many different individuals in so many different forms (oil, gas, food, drugs, building materials, paper, sails, etc. etc. etc.) and the quality of cannabis products outshines that of other resources.

Taken further, cannabis, like many fungi, has enormous potential for research to produce products that excel at tasks that we currently use plastics and metals for.

The legalization of cannabis would literally be a new industrial revolution.  How people miss this is neigh impossible for me to understand.


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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: Humility]
    #14527341 - 05/28/11 05:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i think you confused cannabis with hemp, which already can be grown legally just not on an industrial scale (in the us) as i understand.

it can be imported though ( LOL )


im not sure about other drugs, but prices of cannabis would definitely drop if it were legal as there would be A LOOOOOOOT more people growing their own weed.

also i don't believe the prices of cannabis and hemp are related. hemp is a completely separate plant that can be farmed on a massive scale without worry of potency or curing. it can just be grown and grown and grown and chopped down to be processed to be used for whatever someone wants to use it for.

cannabis when grown has to be cared for if you want high quality, and with the high abundance we would see there would be higher demand for quality of product. hemp will be grown massively without regard of quality (hemp could be legalized long before cannabis, and im surprised it's illegal right now anyway)

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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: CuriousMind]
    #14527357 - 05/28/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The side of me that is violent and frustrated fantasizes about executing DEA agents by shooting them in the face at point blank range. 














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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: Learyfan]
    #14527373 - 05/28/11 05:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: CuriousMind]
    #14527386 - 05/28/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If you don't like it go vote.
It's that easy, vote to change things.

...before you tell me votes don't matter, google up how many dispensaries there are in Colorado first.


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Re: To HELL with the DEA *DELETED* [Re: 2jew4u]
    #14527447 - 05/28/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: CuriousMind]
    #14527471 - 05/28/11 06:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm pretty sure it's against our constitutional rights to have the government come in and tell doctors how to treat their patients




No, there's no such prohibition in the Constitution.


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Re: To HELL with the DEA *DELETED* [Re: Doc_T]
    #14527476 - 05/28/11 06:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: CuriousMind]
    #14527492 - 05/28/11 06:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I've voted since I turned 18, but my state hasn't had any policies or things to vote on as far as the drug war or medicinal cannabis is concerned since then... Theirs not much I can really do, I sign petitions and stuff...




You can do much more than that by speaking up to the people you know.
They smoke pot or know somebody who does, all of them, but they don't talk about it.
So be open. Not blabby, just open.

Then when it comes to vote, mention what a waste of their tax money current MJ policy is. :thumbup:

"We lock people up for weed? And I'm paying for that?!?!" <-- just like that.

(Also, you said "since 18" but didn't mention your age... it does take some time to work. I'm 44, I've seen some change happen.)


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Re: To HELL with the DEA *DELETED* [Re: CuriousMind]
    #14527499 - 05/28/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: CuriousMind]
    #14528122 - 05/28/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Prisoner, I do get your point man. Obama lied to us, just like every other president does really. You say the DEA doesn't make laws, correct. BUT they do send out an enormous amount of propaganda which brain-washes the ignorant sheep in to believing them. AND, it IS the DEA that is threatening doctors, and fucking the people with illnesses big time.





and once again through an act of congress the powers of the DEA are passed
down, one that affects doctards as well as the patients, it's like blaming
the dog for the commands of it's master


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But the DEA has really taken this 'drug war' to heart. This is how they make their living.





it's their job, change the laws and the DEA is a toothless dog

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The problem is, they have power enough to go right past laws.





no they dont

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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: CuriousMind]
    #14528152 - 05/28/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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It's sad, this country was built to stop government interference and oppression. And now look, we've become the biggest police state in the world. I don't think our founding fathers would be pleased at all.





because no one wants to speak up, because everyone is too lazy to vote
because the other guys figure the next guy will do something about it and
nothing ever gets done


apathy is why things are the way they are

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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14529953 - 05/29/11 09:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

your right prisoner, everyone likes to point fingers but nobodys willing to do something about it, the power is in our hands although it might not be much together we can make a world of differance

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    #14530003 - 05/29/11 10:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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