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akistrodon
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Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED
#14526852 - 05/28/11 04:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yesterday, I did DMT for the first time. I later did it another 5-6 times..
My friend claims im abusing it. But to me, every trip is a small piece, to a large puzzle.
Every trip felt like I was getting closer to something.. But what?
Right after the come down from my most intense DMT trip yet, these words shot into my mind, "This universe has just shown me another world.. I must explore.."
Every step(trip) is one step closer to something..
Does anyone know what im talking about?
I am getting somewhere, or am I just
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Re: Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED [Re: akistrodon]
#14526857 - 05/28/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The answer is yes but it sounds like no.
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Re: Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED [Re: eckhem] 1
#14526931 - 05/28/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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..enter joe molloy
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Re: Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED [Re: Libertin]
#14527009 - 05/28/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Too much use will make it less magical. You will learn the DMT reality as you know your own reality, and that runs the risk of it not being a magical experience anymore. You might find yourself looking for the next high after DMT, and that's a pretty crazy thought to think about, because DMT is the psychedelic end of the line.
As for what you are "getting close to," I have learned many things from DMT. However, I suggest you don't take it too literally, or learn the difference between helping your personal spirituality and life philosophy or being a spun out freak-a-zoid.
I blasted somebody off for their first time. "Man, the sidewalk had all these patterns and messages on it. It made me think that like....maybe side walks have messages for us but we don't see them all the time?" Don't be like that retard. I responded with "You've blasted off once and you already sound like you should be in a mental hospital. These are tools to learn things about yourself and the universe. Some messages and images should not be taken literally. Other messages and images can teach you to handle situations in your life differently and for the better, but you must be skeptical and careful. Use your logical and rational parts of your mind while you delve into your spirit and the cosmos."
Safe travels.
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Re: Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED [Re: Joolz]
#14527052 - 05/28/11 04:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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dont take it so seriously, and if you keep doing it alot one of these times your guna get your ass handed to you which can fuck your mind up for weeks trust me.
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Yeah, a bad trip on DMT can be tough. I personally have seen the devil, had the "shitting myself, heart being, panic in my stomach" trips. I still go back though, because I'm a die hard psychonaut.
Lots of DMT is not for the weak heart or mind. However, a little bit here or there every once in a while will definitely leave you happy and refreshed ime.
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Re: Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED [Re: Libertin]
#14527148 - 05/28/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Libertin said: ..enter joe molloy
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Re: Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED [Re: Joolz]
#14527152 - 05/28/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Joolz said:
I blasted somebody off for their first time. "Man, the sidewalk had all these patterns and messages on it. It made me think that like....maybe side walks have messages for us but we don't see them all the time?" Don't be like that retard. I responded with "You've blasted off once and you already sound like you should be in a mental hospital. Safe travels. 
Thats EXACTLY what I am trying to do. (Not the sidewalk part!). I had a similar thing happen to me on Mushrooms. My door became alive and two figures lifted from it and left behind a map. I remembered that these substances are merely a map, not the treasure itself. That treasure we must find, its not given. And even then, that treasure might be nothing at all. Nothing from my DMT trips have carried into my everyday life, other than the thoughts of those crazy visions. I look at my 'visions' through more than just a spiritual perspective. Great advice, thanks! Maybe i'm taking these experiences too literally?
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Re: Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED [Re: akistrodon]
#14527199 - 05/28/11 05:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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DMT taught me to forget all useless emotions. It taught me to make everyday a happy one. It also taught me to live in sadness (death of someone in family/friends, etc) but not to let that sadness become depression (depression is a useless emotion, no offense to anyone suffering from it. Find the strength to step out of the hole!) It taught me to live in all my emotions. It also taught me to be open minded towards people. That sometimes, people just fuck up, and that's no reason to get angry or quit a friendship. You should only end a friendship if that person is a continuous fuckup/douchebag.
These substances could be called a map, yes. That map leads (imo and ime) to your inner, true ego. You can base who you are off other people if you want. Somebody smiles at you and you feel good, somebody frowns at you and you let it upset you. Or, as I learned from being so mindfucked on psychs, you can just look inside and find yourself. You can be whatever you want to be, I just hope that whatever you choose will help more than hurt.
Drugs taught me everything I know about my personal spirituality and how I live my life and the decisions I make. I do not recommend everybody incorporate their trips into their life philosophy, but it worked for me.
I'm to the point now that I just take them to reaffirm my beliefs and have a good time though. Luckily, my life philosophy is to just have a good time and make every day special. I cry when I'm sad, and fume when I'm angry. But I don't let sadness turn to depression and anger to rage. I always seem to find myself going back to happiness.
Remember, every little thing is going to be alright. Just stay positive and don't hesitate to say yes to any opportunity in life that will lead you to happiness and a life changing experience. Just be skeptical and careful in your travels as well.
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Re: Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED [Re: Libertin]
#14527203 - 05/28/11 05:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Libertin said: ..enter joe molloy
no doubt... lmao!
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Re: Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED [Re: akistrodon]
#14527218 - 05/28/11 05:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know in a way what you are speaking about. It is the "IT'S RIGHT THERE" feeling, that you are so close to something you have just about got it. It can be many things that conjure that sense. A few are a fragmented aspect of yourself that holds much wisdom that you are about to reintegrate with, it can be a companion or ally (usually another aspect of yourself) that you are almost coming in contact with OR, it can be the ego looping you with the mystery.
The Native Americans believe in the Great Mystery. It is an essence, so to speak, of all the questions and answers in the cosmos. It is beyond comprehension by a single mind. It can be tapped into but not with the body, mind or emotions. It is one of higher vibration and cannot be grasped. Maybe, you are reaching some realization or maybe you are abusing it. It is something you must discern from the truth of your heart.
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Re: Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED [Re: akistrodon]
#14527238 - 05/28/11 05:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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You can do ANYTHING too much...
I would recommend you dial it back a bit. Once every three or four days at most. Its not a new toy that you can play with 24/7 as if it were an IPhone. Otherwise (as others have said) it will lose its magic, and there will come a time where it kicks your ass and it will all become less inviting. Besides, it often takes several days to integrate any one experience...and now you're piling on new ones before the full benefit of the prior experience. That seems like a waste of spice to me.
Take it easy. You have your whole life to get where DMT can take you.
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Re: Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED [Re: Joolz]
#14527243 - 05/28/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Joolz said: DMT taught me to forget all useless emotions. It taught me to make everyday a happy one. It also taught me to live in sadness (death of someone in family/friends, etc) but not to let that sadness become depression (depression is a useless emotion, no offense to anyone suffering from it. Find the strength to step out of the hole!) It taught me to live in all my emotions. It also taught me to be open minded towards people. That sometimes, people just fuck up, and that's no reason to get angry or quit a friendship. You should only end a friendship if that person is a continuous fuckup/douchebag.
These substances could be called a map, yes. That map leads (imo and ime) to your inner, true ego. You can base who you are off other people if you want. Somebody smiles at you and you feel good, somebody frowns at you and you let it upset you. Or, as I learned from being so mindfucked on psychs, you can just look inside and find yourself. You can be whatever you want to be, I just hope that whatever you choose will help more than hurt.
Drugs taught me everything I know about my personal spirituality and how I live my life and the decisions I make. I do not recommend everybody incorporate their trips into their life philosophy, but it worked for me.
I'm to the point now that I just take them to reaffirm my beliefs and have a good time though. Luckily, my life philosophy is to just have a good time and make every day special. I cry when I'm sad, and fume when I'm angry. But I don't let sadness turn to depression and anger to rage. I always seem to find myself going back to happiness.
Remember, every little thing is going to be alright. Just stay positive and don't hesitate to say yes to any opportunity in life that will lead you to happiness and a life changing experience. Just be skeptical and careful in your travels as well.
You, my friend, have completely summed up all of my Psychedelic experiences in a single paragraph. All of what you said about returning to Happiness is what I realized on a long, hard, 14 Gram Morning Glory seed trip.
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Re: Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED [Re: Nature Boy]
#14527274 - 05/28/11 05:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said: You can do ANYTHING too much...
I would recommend you dial it back a bit. Once every three or four days at most. Its not a new toy that you can play with 24/7 as if it were an IPhone. Otherwise (as others have said) it will lose its magic, and there will come a time where it kicks your ass and it will all become less inviting. Besides, it often takes several days to integrate any one experience...and now you're piling on new ones before the full benefit of the prior experience. That seems like a waste of spice to me.
Take it easy. You have your whole life to get where DMT can take you.
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Nature Boy said: You can do ANYTHING too much...
I would recommend you dial it back a bit. Once every three or four days at most. Its not a new toy that you can play with 24/7 as if it were an IPhone. Otherwise (as others have said) it will lose its magic, and there will come a time where it kicks your ass and it will all become less inviting. Besides, it often takes several days to integrate any one experience...and now you're piling on new ones before the full benefit of the prior experience. That seems like a waste of spice to me.
Take it easy. You have your whole life to get where DMT can take you.
N.B.
I understand what your saying.. But so far, I haven't been able to reach the full DMT experience..
I thought I did.. Then I went again, and realized I wasn't even close.
There was so much to it. I don't want to abuse this, I just want to learn. Believe me, I HATE it when people say they do DMT and talk about how "Fucked up" they were.
I have my intentions straight, and my mind set. I keep telling myself im doing this for the right reason. But, what is the "Right Reason"? Is there one?
I want to experience a TRUE DMT experience.. Something that will carry on with me. Something ill remember for ages.
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Re: Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED [Re: akistrodon]
#14527321 - 05/28/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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akistrodon said: I want to experience a TRUE DMT experience.. Something that will carry on with me. Something ill remember for ages.
Well, I'm not sure that a "true" DMT experience is likely to result from binging, which is how it sounds. You can no more pursue and acquire a true DMT experience than you can pursue and attain "true love." You can't force it to happen, nor increase your chances of it happening by repeatedly going to the well. In fact, in my experience, less is more. It will come to >>YOU<<, not vice versa.
You are, of course, free to do as you will, but that's 
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Re: Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED [Re: Nature Boy]
#14527356 - 05/28/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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akistrodon said: I want to experience a TRUE DMT experience.. Something that will carry on with me. Something ill remember for ages.
Well, I'm not sure that a "true" DMT experience is likely to result from binging, which is how it sounds. You can no more pursue and acquire a true DMT experience than you can pursue and attain "true love." You can't force it to happen, nor increase your chances of it happening by repeatedly going to the well. In fact, in my experience, less is more. It will come to >>YOU<<, not vice versa.
You are, of course, free to do as you will, but that's 
N.B.
That got me thinking..
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Re: Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED [Re: akistrodon]
#14527361 - 05/28/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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akistrodon said: But to me, every trip is a small piece, to a large puzzle.
Every trip felt like I was getting closer to something.. But what?
Right after the come down from my most intense DMT trip yet, these words shot into my mind, "This universe has just shown me another world.. I must explore.."
Every step(trip) is one step closer to something..
Does anyone know what im talking about?
I am getting somewhere, or am I just 
Do I get it? I spent two years taking oral DMT with harmala alkaloids which deposits you in that same headspace where you were yesterday, except I was there for hours at a time every Saturday with the addition of the harmalas which stretch the trip to five or six hours.
You're damn right that it feels you are getting closer to the core of existence. All of the answers to the mysteries lie there, all knowledge is contained there and you can get it too. All of it! Unfortunately its like a dream and it slips away but you can always get it back next time. It really doesn't feel like abuse because you believe you are growing intellectually, spiritually, and emotionally. Even when I'd get my ass kicked, in a few days the memory would lose its power over me and I'd enthusiastically go back in and be graciously rewarded for my persistence and tenacity in navigating hyperspace.
The rewards are everything you can imagine and everything you could never imagine. It's a giant cosmic party all about you. You're the star of this magical, decadent, self-absorbed freak show. It's so perfectly tuned to you and your dreams and your psyche and your subconscious that nothing feels so right.
My verdict: It's an onion that you can keep peeling forever and you'll never get nearer to the core or the truth because there is none. You're on a treadmill, running in place and you get off and there you are, right where you began, maybe a bit dumber. It's masturbation and the orgasms keep getting better but you'll never know more because of it. Eventually you might realize that the orgasms aren't even worth it anymore and they might be damaging your ability to think clearly and operate successfully in consensus reality.
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Re: Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED [Re: Nature Boy]
#14527426 - 05/28/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm still trying to find words for my newly found spirituality and philosophy. I learned it myself at my first ever festival (it was a small one, too) where I was on some acid and molly. Just mindfucked to all hell, I got in a thought loop. I broke the thought loop, had an epiphany, and I feel like I've really taken some huge steps. I've even mindfucked some people in conversations with the fact that I am still very young but, as they put it, "sound like an old man with lots of years experience in life". I don't know though. I still feel like I have a long way to go, I just try to help with my own opinion where I can.
As for having the "talking to God" DMT breakthrough, I myself am still looking for it. I also haven't raised my doses too much though. I still only smoke half a 10th of a gram at a time, maybe pushing into a 10th at the very end before I'm going to stop for tolerance and my usual couple weeks break. I hope to some day speak to these DMT elves, or whatever it is people see. However, even if I don't, I've seen (not spoken) some pretty crazy mystical entities and people.
I once saw the devil in my living room, laughing at me. I had panic in my chest, because I am still a human and can not completely, 100% control my emotions, but I swallowed hard and looked to another part of my house. When I looked, it was at my friend who was just on the ground having a giggle fit. Rainbow colors were shooting out of his mouth. I made the assumption that the rainbows were laughter, and it made me feel all happy and fuzzy inside that I was literally SEEING laughter, which is pretty crazy, right?
The rest of that trip was wonderful, as always. The trick, I think, is to remember that it is a drug. If you see something scary, swallow hard and get over it. Its not going to kill you. In any case, if it really is going to kill you, I doubt there's much you could do when this DMT demon comes flying at your throat with his teeth gnashing.
Another trick is to remember that the number one goal is fun. Whatever you learn is excess. Take psychs to have fun.
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Re: Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED [Re: Joolz]
#14527525 - 05/28/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Another trick is to remember that the number one goal is fun. Whatever you learn is excess. Take psychs to have fun.
I see this theme in many of your posts and I commend it. That's probably the best mindset in which to take these drugs. Just see them as wacky, fun experiences and once shit starts to get too heavy or you start taking these mindfuck dreamscapes seriously, you need to move on.
Joolz has his bullshit detector fine tuned in one hand and some party favors in the other hand along with his space helmet on while smoking a cigarette.
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Re: Can you do DMT too much? INPUT NEEDED [Re: joemolloy]
#14527610 - 05/28/11 06:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Smoking a joint, my friend. Cigarettes give me pretty horrible nausea unless I'm super gonzo, then I'll puff on one maybe 4 times to get that nice tobacco headrush to compliment the whole cocktail in my system.
I just feel like people maybe over think and over analyze the whole situation. You see God with your eyes or you think you comprehend the entire universe and how it works on these things. They are literally mind grenades. They're tools for your brain for thought, just like shoes are tools for your feet to keep them from being cut up or hurt.
You can try to find an answer. I mean, I even did when I first started. I used to read the spirituality and philosophy forums daily thinking I was becoming more enlightened. I tried traditional meditation, and read all sorts of Buddhist as well as other religion's teachings.
I eventually had the fateful trip where I decided that I'm going to create my own spirituality. I fill it with things that make me happy. Lucky for everyone else though, I find happiness in making others happy as well. I try to be open minded, and I don't really mind what you're doing or plan to do as long as others won't be inconvenienced by you. Don't cause problems for others, and you and I will get along fine.
I also let go of my thoughts. I go through life and each experience is simply something to learn from. I don't hold onto them and say "this is me." If I have a crazy fucked up thought about stabbing an old woman, I'm not going to go into depression because this sick and twisted thought went through my head. I just let it go, and remind myself that I am a better person that whatever terrible thing I just thought up.
The only reason you know who you are is because of others. If we didn't have people to tell us our name, or when we were born, or anything else about ourselves, we wouldn't have this ego that we have. Look inside, find yourself, be happy, make the world a better place for each of us.
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