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inski
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: mycoelement]
#14526596 - 05/28/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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That is definitely an active Psilocybe species and as far as macroscopic characteristics go I'm quite certain it is the same as the species shown in the link below. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13323519/fpart/1/vc/1 At first I suspected this to be Psilocybe samuiensis which it does seem to be very closely related to but with some small differences in microscopic characteristics and habitat, the spores are ovoid to subrhomboid, P. alutacea is a temperate coprophilous species that is known only from Tasmania but is probably more widespread, the spores are described as being ellipsoidal-ovoid and the spores from the holotype are quite a bit larger and more elongated than what is shown in my micrograph in the link above, there is a possibility that this collection and the collection shown in my link above is P. alutaceae and just as good a chance that it is an undescribed species, it would be interesting to compare the microscopy here and also the DNA sequences.
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: inski]
#14526616 - 05/28/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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very cool!
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Oboy
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Very nice findings!
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WVgetsrad
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: Oboy]
#14526761 - 05/28/11 03:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Awesome!
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tryptonite
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: mycoelement]
#14529200 - 05/29/11 02:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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mycoelement said: as far as i can tell they are either fimicola (wich would mean the first find in australia)
incorrect there are already official records from of Panaeolus fimicola from WA and SA. but awesome find though this is much better because its obviously much more active. hope it turns out to be Psilocybe alutacea under the scope
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mycoelement
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: tryptonite]
#14529244 - 05/29/11 02:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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tryptonite said:
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mycoelement said: as far as i can tell they are either fimicola (wich would mean the first find in australia)
incorrect there are already official records from of Panaeolus fimicola from WA and SA. but awesome find though this is much better because its obviously much more active. hope it turns out to be Psilocybe alutacea under the scope 
ok cool thanks for the correction there i was unaware of this i looked and looked and couldnt find anything that stated they'd been found in oz
so it would seem these little mushrooms are causing a bit of a stir  i'll be doing everything i can to get these properly id'd
in the mean time i have some growing here to keep an eye on and photograph regularly i'll then spore print them and anything else i need to do for a proper microscopic identification
i also just thought i'd post this link here from the first one that was found nearly a month ago its not much couple of bad pics but thought i should add it here anyway
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14386939
Edited by mycoelement (05/30/11 05:14 AM)
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wisp
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: mycoelement]
#14529405 - 05/29/11 03:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Excellent find, I look forward to the microscopy report.
The stipes look quite different to your find inski.
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Stopwhispering
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: wisp]
#14529408 - 05/29/11 03:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice find mycoelement, can't wait to see what they turn out to be.
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Tangich


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I agree, this is an amazing find! They look very beautiful, and grow directly from horse dung, which would probably make them an excellent candidate for cultivation! (Btw, sorry for the offtopic, but Tripsis, you might be interested to know your KKL01 is fruiting!)
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mycoelement
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: Tangich]
#14529418 - 05/29/11 04:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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im attempting cultivation now should be interesting to see how easily they can be cultivated to begin with i'll be attempting a simple outdoor dunglover type tek i then plan on trying my hand at some indoor cultivation we'll see how we go
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_OttO_
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: mycoelement]
#14529831 - 05/29/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Amazing pics and very exciting news about these, thanks for posting!
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greencavefloat
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: _OttO_]
#14530478 - 05/29/11 12:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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very nice. have this thread bookmarked.
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inski
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: wisp]
#14530757 - 05/29/11 01:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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tripsis said: Excellent find, I look forward to the microscopy report.
The stipes look quite different to your find inski.
I'm certain this is the same species, the stipe took on many different macroscopic characteristics with the collection in my link, compare this image,
...with mycoelements second photo here.
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amilibertine
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: inski] 1
#14530841 - 05/29/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Very cool find!
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: amilibertine]
#14530944 - 05/29/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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yes i see the resemblance for sure inski.
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maynardjameskeenan
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holy shit I guessed right!?! But it was my second guess so it doesn't really count. 
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Edited by maynardjameskeenan (05/29/11 08:27 PM)
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inski
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Quote:
maynardjameskeenan said: holy shit I guessed right!?! But it was my second guess so it don't really count.  
No, it's not P. samuiensis but it is very close in macroscopic and microscopic form to that species, if it is not P. alutacea then it is an undescribed species!
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: inski]
#14532545 - 05/29/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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ehtdaedlufetarg
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These are the posts that keep me around the shroomery. Neat find!
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psylosymonreturns
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ehtdaedlufetarg said: These are the posts that keep me around the shroomery. Neat find!
these are the posts that make me realize i need to live in new zealand !
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