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OfflineeatshrOOms88
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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: CuriousMind]
    #14530039 - 05/29/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i think they should at least decriminalize marijuana because no matter how many raids they preform it's still a losing battle this country isn't free at all the government dictates everything we do. FUCK the us government quit trying to control everyone.
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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: CuriousMind]
    #14530203 - 05/29/11 11:17 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:facepalm3: yes the DEA are a bunch of fear mongering terrorists, is all your gonna do complain about them, look op if you sever the head (retarded backwardass laws) and the rest will follow, even though the game is rigged and the odds are stacked against you its still a fight worth fighting over, alot of people are fed up with this bullshit your not alone in all this we can win it laws arnt randomly born into existace they are created/abolished by the people WE choose into power, sad to say the majority are a bunch of puppets


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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: auronlives69]
    #14530518 - 05/29/11 12:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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auronlives69 said:
your right prisoner, everyone likes to point fingers but nobodys willing to do something about it, the power is in our hands although it might not be much together we can make a world of differance





so many people say that one person cant make a difference, thie thing is it's
the collective of 'ones' that make the difference, we all have similar views,
we all want to achieve the same goal, if we're each willing to go out and
encourage others to hit the voting booths we can see that difference


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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: Coaster]
    #14530615 - 05/29/11 12:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Coaster said:
cannabus only works on some types of pain

others it does nothing

doctors when hard pressed will script u any med u just need to play them

:coaster:



Weed doesnt help my back. My mom keeps trying to push me to smoke my pain away but the weed just doesn't cut it when it comes to a back made of 70% metal. But, even with hardware like I have which most doctors around here are amazed even to see it, I find it very hard to get narcotics. I do get plenty of hydrocodone now, but I have to take piss tests and every single visit I'm made to feel like a junkie. I have legitimate need for narcotics, I shouldnt have to 'play' them. The game is getting harder, though. People who really don't need them are finding it harder and harder to get doctor dope.


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Re: To HELL with the DEA *DELETED* [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14530673 - 05/29/11 01:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: CuriousMind]
    #14530728 - 05/29/11 01:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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CuriousMind said:
Well cannabis simply needs to be changed to schedule 3 first of all.






I think it just needs to be legalized, fuck the medical marijuana bullshit,
75% of the people with the cards no have no real ailments they're treating
and the way I see it, prohibition is a violation of my constitutional rights


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Fibromyalgia - This is close to what I might have




Fibromyalgia is a scam for pain meds, it seems to afflict white middle class
housewives or other women that want the pain meds


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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14530730 - 05/29/11 01:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Still tho; Every single DEA agent that enforces these horrible laws are to blame for the horrible things they do by following their orders. I blame people even when they are just doing their jobs. If their jobs are destroying peoples lives, I hold them directly responsible for the job they do.

I blame the war on drugs on anyone who does anything to keep it going. People are going to use the substances they want to use because they feel it is their right to choose. The government and the people enforcing these laws take away your right to be a free person. If you are harming no one or destroying property then there is no crime. No one was wronged or suffered a loss.

We should be arresting people for the things they do to wrong others, not make things illegal that have a chance to be used in a unsafe manner. We legalize and regulate certain drugs and we do have problems with them still. Sure you can go drink a case of beer and get behind the wheel of a car and become a very dangerous person to others. Well the beer isn't what has become dangerous, the person who has no regard for others safety is the one creating the situation. We know that and we enforce the law to prevent people from becoming dangerous to others while they are on said substance. Drugs shouldn't be any different. The want for drugs isn't going away, so we need a better system that doesn't hurt people or take away everyones rights


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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: Kada]
    #14530750 - 05/29/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Kada said:
Still tho; Every single DEA agent that enforces these horrible laws are to blame for the horrible things they do by following their orders. I blame people even when they are just doing their jobs. If their jobs are destroying peoples lives, I hold them directly responsible for the job they do.





how fucking hard is it for people to understand

THE DEA DIDNT MAKE ANYONE BUY/SELL/POSSESS/MANUFACTURE DRUGS

THESE DRUGS ARE A CONTRABAND ITEM THAT IS COMMONLY KNOWN AS ILLEGAL IN THE US

POSSESS THE DRUGS AND YOU PUT YOUR OWN FREEDOM AT RISK, THE DEA DOES NOT


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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14530842 - 05/29/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

This brings up the fatal flaw in Strike's thinking. Teach everybody how to make drugs and by sheer numbers we will overcome. Fail. They just build bigger jails and parole violent people to make room for us.


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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14530844 - 05/29/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I say that is the crime. That is where the harm is. They are wrong and taking away personal freedoms. They bring the violence unto peaceful homes that have nothing to do with drugs at all. They kill people in their policing of morals.


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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: Kada]
    #14530895 - 05/29/11 01:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Kada said:
I say that is the crime. That is where the harm is. They are wrong and taking away personal freedoms. They bring the violence unto peaceful homes that have nothing to do with drugs at all. They kill people in their policing of morals.





if you have no drug in your home the chances of you dealing with a raid are
greatly reduced, though it does sometimes happen it is still not a regular
occurrence, and while I agree that drugs shouldnt be illegal none of this
changes the fact that they are in fact illegal at this current time and until
we do something to change that, this shit will always be the same

it's simple, break the laws, increase the risk


if you want to handle it my preferred way, treat the war on drugs like a fucking war


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Re: To HELL with the DEA *DELETED* [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14530921 - 05/29/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14530933 - 05/29/11 02:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

There are always innocent casualties in war. Collateral damage is increasing because the government want to control what they can't control. They raid the wrong people all the time and innocent people die. I don't care how justified the government or police think are, they hurt and kill people over things that humans have always done and will not stop doing. THEY created the problem by making the war on drugs/Americans. They declared us outlaws even tho we harm no one. I say THEY are the outlaws by creating this mess because of their want to control the population. They use any means necessary to control us all and that isn't right.

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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14530969 - 05/29/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

Kada said:
Still tho; Every single DEA agent that enforces these horrible laws are to blame for the horrible things they do by following their orders. I blame people even when they are just doing their jobs. If their jobs are destroying peoples lives, I hold them directly responsible for the job they do.





how fucking hard is it for people to understand

THE DEA DIDNT MAKE ANYONE BUY/SELL/POSSESS/MANUFACTURE DRUGS

THESE DRUGS ARE A CONTRABAND ITEM THAT IS COMMONLY KNOWN AS ILLEGAL IN THE US

POSSESS THE DRUGS AND YOU PUT YOUR OWN FREEDOM AT RISK, THE DEA DOES NOT





Weren't they legal before the DEA made them contraband?  Wouldn't that mean they used to be legal in the first place?  Wouldn't that mean that someone, some agency is responsible for them being labelled as contraband and drugs?


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Re: To HELL with the DEA *DELETED* [Re: Kada]
    #14530981 - 05/29/11 02:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: To HELL with the DEA *DELETED* [Re: CuriousMind]
    #14530995 - 05/29/11 02:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: CuriousMind]
    #14531091 - 05/29/11 02:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Fibromyalgia isn't a disease, it's a set of symptoms that is incurable, and unknown in todays medical community





they know not what causes it, they only know people come in complaining
that their teeth itch or their skin hurts or some other shit, how can
something be cured, treated or even diagnosed if it's unknown

my ex wife, her mother, her sister... all claim to have it yet none ever
complained about pain, I know for a fact my ex didnt have it


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And trust me, people with this condition deserve and need opiates to live.




my ex and her mother were both prescribed tramadol, it's an opiod
analgesic, strangely enough, neither smoked pot because they claimed it
aggravated the condition, I think it's just because they preferred the pills

so tell me, why do most doctards not recognize fibro as a legit ailment,
my ex had to shop around for doctards before she found one that would give
her pain meds, strangely it was the same her mother went to for hers, the
few that do recognize it say if comes from some sort of trauma



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The true problem here is people are automatically concerning themselves with the scamming junkies. Fuck them. These 5-10% scamming junkies the country is at war with ARE MAKING COLLATERAL DAMAGE OUT OF 90% OF OUR SICK FAMILY AND FELLOW AMERICANS.




most people on prescription meds are the scamming junkies, it's the
smaller percentage that actually needs it


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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: CuriousMind]
    #14531110 - 05/29/11 02:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Prisoner doesn't take in to account that the DEA is POWERFUL. They don't want to lose their power and influence. THEY WILL DO WHAT IT TAKES TO CONTINUE THIS WAR. THEY HAVE THE EAR OF POLITICIANS. THEY ARE THE HEAD ENEMY!





no, the general public is the main enemy, just like with alcohol prohibition
it's the people that need to do something about the war on drugs. it's no
wonder nothing is getting done, everyone wants to blame everyone but themselves


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Re: To HELL with the DEA [Re: Maverick]
    #14531136 - 05/29/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Maverick said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
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Kada said:
Still tho; Every single DEA agent that enforces these horrible laws are to blame for the horrible things they do by following their orders. I blame people even when they are just doing their jobs. If their jobs are destroying peoples lives, I hold them directly responsible for the job they do.





how fucking hard is it for people to understand

THE DEA DIDNT MAKE ANYONE BUY/SELL/POSSESS/MANUFACTURE DRUGS

THESE DRUGS ARE A CONTRABAND ITEM THAT IS COMMONLY KNOWN AS ILLEGAL IN THE US

POSSESS THE DRUGS AND YOU PUT YOUR OWN FREEDOM AT RISK, THE DEA DOES NOT





Weren't they legal before the DEA made them contraband?  Wouldn't that mean they used to be legal in the first place?  Wouldn't that mean that someone, some agency is responsible for them being labelled as contraband and drugs?





DEA was formed July 1, 1973

Marijuana was outlawed Aug. 2, 1937

Opium was outlawed in 1909

so... how would they have achieved this goal of prohibiting these drugs
when they werent even a twinkle in the eye of a president until the 70s


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Re: To HELL with the DEA *DELETED* [Re: Prisoner#1]
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