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mycoelement
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: mylfgur]
#14525640 - 05/28/11 10:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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jeez i cant believe theres still no id on these guys it would appear that this is something new 
so i've just come bak from a mates house where they were found and well he ate 24 of em in the end however he ate like 8 then about half an hour later ate another 2 then probly another half hour - 45 mins later he ate the other 14 he said he was feeling something but was a lil hard to tell as we also had been having drinks and bongs to we're both experienced with woodloving species he did say it felt a bit different but yeh as i said it was a lil hard to tell im pretty sure watever they are they wouldnt be very potent wich was my thoughts from the begining i'd say maybe if all 24 were eaten outright there might have been a more noticable effect anyway i have brought home a few turds with pins all over em gonna keep em outside in the cool and study thier growth a bit more and try figure out wat exactly we've got here
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: mycoelement]
#14525651 - 05/28/11 10:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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they look like Deconica coprophila to me. wheres the blueing? i dont see anything that makes me think its a Psilocybe and not a Deconica.
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: Mikael]
#14525661 - 05/28/11 10:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mikael said: Psilocybe, maybe fimetaria?
P fimetaria has a distinct ring like a P stuntzii.
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mycoelement
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the blueing is very hard to see in the pics but when theyre right in front of you theres definately no doubt about the blueing its there they are definately not coprophilla i've seen many coprophilla and these are not them
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: mycoelement]
#14525699 - 05/28/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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ya i can see it in the pics.to me blueing is blueing. ya gotta be able to see it.
i agree the cap shape is different than usual D coprophila. but i still think these would be lumped into that species. i cant see them being active either. but they maybe something new so make sure to send out some spores.
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mycoelement
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yeh i know wat ya sayin man oh well looks like a bit more studyin is in order if theres any trusted identifiers that i could maybe send some kind of sample or print to i may have to do just that as i have no experience in microscopy identification
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: mycoelement]
#14525734 - 05/28/11 10:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Very cool find. I can see were the basal mycelium is bluing. They appear to be an active Psilocybe but I'm not sure which. It will prob require microscopy.
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: TimmiT]
#14525779 - 05/28/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Couldn't really see much bluing either, maybe they're just really weak. You probably have to eat like 100 of them considering they're so small.
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: TimmiT]
#14525786 - 05/28/11 10:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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TimmiT said: Very cool find. I can see were the basal mycelium is bluing. They appear to be an active Psilocybe but I'm not sure which. It will prob require microscopy.
i cant see it . you should look at the spores for this guy!
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TimmiT said: Very cool find. I can see were the basal mycelium is bluing. They appear to be an active Psilocybe but I'm not sure which. It will prob require microscopy.
i cant see it . you should look at the spores for this guy! 
look at the close up of the mycelium. It is very faint but if you've seen blueing when you cut a stem it is very similar to that faint off grey/blue colour.
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: mrckb]
#14525802 - 05/28/11 10:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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mrckb said:
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psylosymonreturns said:
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TimmiT said: Very cool find. I can see were the basal mycelium is bluing. They appear to be an active Psilocybe but I'm not sure which. It will prob require microscopy.
i cant see it . you should look at the spores for this guy! 
look at the close up of the mycelium. It is very faint but if you've seen blueing when you cut a stem it is very similar to that faint off grey/blue colour.
ive had weak P pelliculosa and P stuntzii show faaaaar more noticeable blueing than these. even when i found Conocybe cyanopus i knew instanttly cuz that shit turned BLUE , really blue.
it may just be my monitor , i really hope they are active, dont get me wrong.
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It's pretty faint but it does look like bluing
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: TimmiT]
#14525969 - 05/28/11 11:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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could it be psilocybe bohemica? it's a wood lover so I don't know?
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Most definitely not.
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: Tangich]
#14525994 - 05/28/11 11:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Tangich said: Most definitely not.
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maynardjameskeenan
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I tried!
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: mycoelement]
#14526023 - 05/28/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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mycoelement said:

I'd say that is bruising for sure. Look's exactly like the bruising mycelium base that Ps. Semilanceata have over here!
Interesting find!
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: possible new active panalous [Re: daz01]
#14526038 - 05/28/11 11:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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oh i just read in PMOTW that D coprophilia is "sometimes bruising bluish in the mycelium"
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maynardjameskeenan
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looks a lot like psilocybe samuiensis, which only grows in rice patties?? Maybe you found a new species of psilocybe, congrats man!
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Wow this thread is cool,
psilocybe samuiensis you suggest? This the species native to thailand is it not?
Inski recently found this species in New Zealand growing from shit, it was not confirmed weather it was an import or was naturally growing.
Perhaps Inski could chime in here :P
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