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Re: Chitwan [Re: don_vedo] * 1
    #14648332 - 06/21/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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don_vedo said:
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OoBYCoO said:
Dude, being that Nepal holds a special meaning to you, picking those spores and growing them out for your first will be that much more special to you.  Those are as good as the next.  Go with it!  :super:




I agree, I try and find out as much background history on the strains I grow. OoB stated it's make the grows that much more special!

Lah'Kesh



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Strain Thread Rulez [Re: OoBYCoO] * 1
    #14650644 - 06/21/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Simple question.

If all cube strains are the same, then are our sponsors perpetrating a fraud when they try to sell you multiple strains?

I say logically, yes. If any cube is as good as the other, then they are liars and con artists.

I propose a boycott against all vendors who offer these so called 'strains'.

"Strains emerge when spores germinate and compatible mycelium interacts.  Spores are not strains.  That's not anyone's opinion, it's a mycological fact.

Just because the print or syringe one person got named XXX or ABC made fruits that look a certain way, doesn't mean someone else who prints a different cap and gives it that same name is going to have spores which grow to maturity and present the same way.  If you believe that, then you also believe all guys named Bill are fat and all guys named Jim are skinny, or whatever." -RR

These guys have been taking our money for too long and it's time we did something about it.


Edited by anonjon (06/21/11 08:48 PM)


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Re: Strain Thread Rulez [Re: anonjon] * 1
    #14650671 - 06/21/11 08:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You should wrap that in quotes.


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Re: Strain Thread Rulez [Re: OoBYCoO] * 1
    #14651087 - 06/21/11 09:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Let them know anon. Although for me after buying my first set of syringes, I have yet to buy another again. Always seem to be able to trade my first prints for new prints and then the story continues.

Lah'Kesh


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Re: Strain Thread Rulez [Re: OoBYCoO] * 2
    #14651102 - 06/21/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

its about the phenotype, not the genotype.

they all look slightly different.

and like the lah'kesh boy said, its more the story behind them why people are buying them.

"this particularly mushroom comes from the end of the world. (whooa!) it fruits big and abundantly..."


sponsors want to earn money like everyone else, you little sheep.


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Re: Strain Thread Rulez [Re: anonjon] * 1
    #14651148 - 06/21/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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anonjon said:
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buy the grab bag, ask for pe

problem solved :hehehe:


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Re: Strain Thread Rulez [Re: k00laid] * 1
    #14651461 - 06/21/11 10:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

People buy strains? :shrug:

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Re: Strain Thread Rulez [Re: anonjon] * 1
    #14651632 - 06/21/11 11:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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anonjon said:
Simple question.

If all cube strains are the same, then are our sponsors perpetrating a fraud when they try to sell you multiple strains?

I say logically, yes. If any cube is as good as the other, then they are liars and con artists.

I propose a boycott against all vendors who offer these so called 'strains'.

"Strains emerge when spores germinate and compatible mycelium interacts.  Spores are not strains.  That's not anyone's opinion, it's a mycological fact.

Just because the print or syringe one person got named XXX or ABC made fruits that look a certain way, doesn't mean someone else who prints a different cap and gives it that same name is going to have spores which grow to maturity and present the same way.  If you believe that, then you also believe all guys named Bill are fat and all guys named Jim are skinny, or whatever." -RR

These guys have been taking our money for too long and it's time we did something about it.





they did, its called the Marketplace forum and all the VVVV free trade threads VVVV :super:


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Re: Strain Thread Rulez [Re: anonjon] * 1
    #14652158 - 06/22/11 02:08 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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anonjon said:
Simple question.

If all cube strains are the same, then are our sponsors perpetrating a fraud when they try to sell you multiple strains?

I say logically, yes. If any cube is as good as the other, then they are liars and con artists.

I propose a boycott against all vendors who offer these so called 'strains'.




What about commercials? Products that promise to improve your life? Products that promise to make you sexy, interesting, intelligent, healthy? Logically this is a fraud, not legally. Big difference.


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Edited by LeopardMan (06/22/11 04:17 AM)


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Re: Strain Thread Rulez [Re: LeopardMan] * 1
    #14674552 - 06/26/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Anybody have more info or a link to learn about P.c. Argentina?


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Re: Strain Thread Rulez [Re: ShroomyJohn] * 1
    #14675091 - 06/26/11 01:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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ShroomyJohn said:
Anybody have more info or a link to learn about P.c. Argentina?



https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10560039#10560039


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: RogerRabbit] * 1
    #14675158 - 06/26/11 02:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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OoBYCoO said:
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ShroomyJohn said:
Anybody have more info or a link to learn about P.c. Argentina?



https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10560039#10560039



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RogerRabbit said:
Considering that nobody was reading through hundreds of pages of the old strain thread any more, I moved it to the archives, and now give you guys a blank page to start over.  Be nice and have fun.
RR





Thanks for the help, as though I wasn't able to find that thread on my own :rolleyes:


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Re: Strain Thread Rulez [Re: OoBYCoO] * 1
    #14675175 - 06/26/11 02:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Id like to see some info on Space Coast.  A shroomery grow log would be nice too. (dont even point to le roar's)

:stirthepot:


Ahhh the strain thread
:lmafo:

While I'm here does anyone have a tek on how to grow 5 lbs in 10 days?
:hehehe:

:burnone:
:popcorn:


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Re: Strain Thread Rulez [Re: UnnamedGrower] * 1
    #14675692 - 06/26/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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UnnamedGrower said:
While I'm here does anyone have a tek on how to grow 5 lbs in 10




Im with you!

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Re: Strain Thread Rulez [Re: don_vedo] * 1
    #14681055 - 06/27/11 04:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

..... Where'd,... oh! Archives, I see.... :confused2:


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Re: Strain Thread Rulez [Re: ProfessorPinHead] * 1
    #14684674 - 06/28/11 06:01 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'll just like a clarification about why there is an issue with discussing "sub-strains" of Ps. cubensis.
If the characteristics of a strain are not kept from once a spore print is made, how come traits such as albinism, red spore produce and the penis shape of "penis envy" in cubes can still be carried through multi-spore? Surely if such visual traits can be carried through spore printa, the characteristics that are suggested to come from cubensis "sub-strains", such as maybe alkaloid amount variation, colonisation speed, substrate preference, size, novelty value and contamination resistance could be marked on cubensis "strains" through multi-spore and therefore giving results worthwhile to be discussed and compared?
Or I realize now I may just be missing the point, as there maybe there actually is not much useful variation and adequate genetic consistency that can be achieved from this mushroom cultivated from prints?

I just read the second post, gave me a better understanding. Ignore this post.


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Re: Strain Thread Rulez [Re: Fronnis] * 1
    #14684678 - 06/28/11 06:04 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

how often do you grow true albinos from an albino print?

i havent had much luck.


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: john6886] * 1
    #14687200 - 06/28/11 04:20 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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john6886 said:

I'll be working with Rye -> Coir\Verm monotubs and POSSIBLY some pf cakes.

Albino A+
B+
Burma
Costa Rica
Ecuador
Golden Teacher
Huautla
Malabar Coast
Mazatapec
Nepal, Chitwan
Albino Penis Envy (APE ver. 1.0)
Penis Envy
Penis Envy Uncut
PES Amazonian
PES Hawaiian
PF Standard
PF Albino
Puerto Rican
Treasure Coast



AA+ and Mazatapec are the fastest of those, and each strain treats me differently. Treasure Coasts are brutally slow, PES Hawaaians are decent speed, and very potent. Costa Ricans are pretty quick aswell, and have a really nice buzz to em.

I don't subscribed to the "a cube is a cube" crap. But for those that do it's fine.


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Re: Strain Thread Rulez [Re: anonjon] * 1
    #14689126 - 06/28/11 10:37 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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anonjon said:
Simple question.

If all cube strains are the same, then are our sponsors perpetrating a fraud when they try to sell you multiple strains?

I say logically, yes. If any cube is as good as the other, then they are liars and con artists.

I propose a boycott against all vendors who offer these so called 'strains'.

"Strains emerge when spores germinate and compatible mycelium interacts.  Spores are not strains.  That's not anyone's opinion, it's a mycological fact.

Just because the print or syringe one person got named XXX or ABC made fruits that look a certain way, doesn't mean someone else who prints a different cap and gives it that same name is going to have spores which grow to maturity and present the same way.  If you believe that, then you also believe all guys named Bill are fat and all guys named Jim are skinny, or whatever." -RR

These guys have been taking our money for too long and it's time we did something about it.




Many of these vender gave many of the forum members their first safe product to start off their hobby. They provide a clean, easy to use product for beginners, and those who don't wish to go to the work and expense of going A to Z on their own. A vender took my money and I got something I'm satisfied with in return. Something to think about before starting the revolt.


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Re: Strain Thread Rulez [Re: vredstein] * 1
    #14689134 - 06/28/11 10:39 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Something to think about before starting the revolt.



dont worry
sponsors pay good money to be sponsors here.

this is just banter


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