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Murdoc



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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Mad Season]
#22671768 - 12/18/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fae is uped to max and temp is like 23c still they are hallow....at least i know that they are okay
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Murdoc]
#22671879 - 12/18/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Try like 20-21C for denser fruits.
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Murdoc



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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Inocuole]
#22671913 - 12/18/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Will do sir!
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Murdoc]
#22671992 - 12/18/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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They can handle colder than that too, they grow more slowly but if you like density, that's the ticket.
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Mad Season
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Murdoc]
#22672161 - 12/18/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Murdoc said: Fae is uped to max and temp is like 23c still they are hallow....at least i know that they are okay
What is your setup? In what way is it maxed? I'd say indoor open air/outdoors is Max fae. When I did my open air grow I didn't have any hollow fruits from any of my varieties.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Fractal420]
#22672242 - 12/18/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: The synthesis path is fairly well known:

I am referring to how it is stored in the myc/mush
More so where/when and how much? And whether it is stored as dmt or psiloc(yb)in
I have this feeling that while myc might not have much psilo until it flushes, it might still have a bunch of NN-DMT, or at least precursors. I think myc probably does have some hefty amounts of dmt. I wanna do a full analysis (nmr? Gc/ms?) of a bunch of crumbled up cubensis spawn and see exactly what psychoactives it might contain (looking mostly for dmt and other basic tryptamines Or just know factually otherwise (even many shroomers here dont really think about the baeocystin or its possible biological action, etc. but most signs point to it being just as active as psilo)
Well sure, go for it, but IME myc that hasn't fruited but is made into tea didn't make me trip, only made me nauseous. And I only tried that once, so though YMMV I'm not personally much interested in it except for the distinct lack of psychoactives that it showed. What you don't know here is how long the biosynthesis requires to run - days? minutes? Huge differences. Mushrooms are really good at synthesis tek.
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ralph larun
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: PrimalSoup]
#22672709 - 12/18/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Has any one fruited pe on cakes?
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: ralph larun]
#22672843 - 12/18/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fahtster did epic PE on cakes. He did things a bit different which help. I don't want to spill all his secrets but I believe that extra consolidation and extra supplied water is key to PE doing well on cakes.
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Murdoc



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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Mad Season]
#22673866 - 12/18/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mad Season said: What is your setup? In what way is it maxed? I'd say indoor open air/outdoors is Max fae. When I did my open air grow I didn't have any hollow fruits from any of my varieties.
I have sgfc with excess amount of holes so its max fae...and i cant do open air because humidity in my home is like 40-45 rH
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Murdoc]
#22673918 - 12/18/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anyone can do open air you just have to case.
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Inocuole
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: ralph larun]
#22674394 - 12/18/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Open air is actually pretty cool to try and seemed to be a big "fuck you" to contamination during my runs with it.
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Machiavelliavore
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Inocuole]
#22674689 - 12/19/15 02:35 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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So do you just use a thick ass casing? My attempts at open-airing a few v-tek containers have ended in dry surface mycellium within 2-3 hours. 50rH.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22674715 - 12/19/15 02:52 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Somewhat thick. Ideally you want the surface to look like this: 
Notice there's not much exposed mycelium. If it's like that it seems to retain surface hydration longer.
Direct misting seems to help keep the myc down. I'm not sure why some cultures colonize the casing. But those cultures will IMO be the first to get dry.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Mad Season]
#22674727 - 12/19/15 03:04 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah my redboy strains tend to hit 100% colonization before fruiting. So in a sense do you soak the casing to keep it suboptimal for colonization/mycellial growth and rely on the extreme evaporation rate to produce the necessary humidity below the surface?
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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DaveyJones6911
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22676759 - 12/19/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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you guys may be interested in my open air grow experiments. right now i am testing out a wick system: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22664461 this is with 2 tubs of ms cambodian, to observe the moisture content while i work on isolating myc on agar to do a proper performance test.
previously i had good success with open air http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22470314 my substrate did not reach the rim of the container i was using. there was 1.5" to 2" of of the tub left above substrate level. i was also using a wick that time, that's why i'm doing a comparison now to see if it made a difference. humidity in the room ranged from 20% to 45% and at the driest time i only observed very minor cracking of the caps. i got a nice yield of dense good looking fruits.
i am also fucking around with the idea of bringing outdoor style growing indoors with a tub filled with soil, substrate in the middle and then covered with soil in which vegitation will be sowed or planted. first run of experiments will be with rye grass. if at all successful i will be trying out different things like moss and plants like fern and strawberries n stuff like that.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: DaveyJones6911]
#22677524 - 12/19/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I read on Hawks Eye that Golden Teachers came from Georgia. Is there any validity to that?
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: DaveyJones6911]
#22677969 - 12/20/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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DaveyJones6911 said:
i am also fucking around with the idea of bringing outdoor style growing indoors with a tub filled with soil, substrate in the middle and then covered with soil in which vegitation will be sowed or planted. first run of experiments will be with rye grass. if at all successful i will be trying out different things like moss and plants like fern and strawberries n stuff like that.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: HonkyGeorge]
#22690284 - 12/23/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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HonkyGeorge said: I read on Hawks Eye that Golden Teachers came from Georgia. Is there any validity to that?
And I keep hearing they originated in Florida
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TurtleUp
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: MycodelicManiac]
#22717808 - 12/30/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 30 days ago) |
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Anyone heard of a strain names "Fat ass"??
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TurtleUp]
#22717847 - 12/30/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 30 days ago) |
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i doubt it
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