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Aero
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22643002 - 12/11/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I have always suspected those advocates of eating myc or making cake tea, etc, are also those who are big advocates of smoking shrooms. Either that or they can't grow worth a shit 
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Aero]
#22643149 - 12/11/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm sure I've heard eatyualive say he's tripped off of spent cake tea? We know he doesn't suck! Lol
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: oregon.trailboy]
#22643171 - 12/11/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wonder how psilocybin is created in the fruits if it isn't already in the mycelium.. and what's the actual purpose of it anyway other than to make humans trip balls? I mean surely there's got to be a reason these fungi have that substance in them
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Aero]
#22643289 - 12/11/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Aero said:
nothing like shitting glitter after eating some vermiculite !
I think you gotta credit RR for that one...
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: PrimalSoup]
#22643294 - 12/11/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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PrimalSoup said:
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Aero said:
nothing like shitting glitter after eating some vermiculite !
I think you gotta credit RR for that one... 
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: oregon.trailboy]
#22643316 - 12/11/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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oregon.trailboy said: I'm sure I've heard eatyualive say he's tripped off of spent cake tea? We know he doesn't suck! Lol
Keep the distinction clear. Spent myc does have some actives, there are studies...somewhere...
google "does psilocybin mycelium contain active alkaloids?"
Wiki says something about that...
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Both the caps and the stems contain the psychoactive compounds, although the caps consistently contain more. The spores of these mushrooms do not contain psilocybin or psilocin.[110][111][92] The total potency varies greatly between species and even between specimens of a species collected or grown from the same strain.[112] Because most psilocybin biosynthesis occurs early in the formation of fruit bodies or sclerotia, younger, smaller mushrooms tend to have a higher concentration of the drug than larger, mature mushrooms.[113] In general, the psilocybin content of mushrooms is quite variable (ranging from almost nothing to 1.5% of the dry weight)[114] and depends on species, strain, growth and drying conditions, and mushroom size.[115] Cultivated mushrooms have less variability in psilocybin content than wild mushrooms.[116] The drug is more stable in dried than fresh mushrooms; dried mushrooms retain their potency for months or even years,[117] while mushrooms stored fresh for four weeks contain only traces of the original psilocybin.[7] The psilocybin contents of dried herbarium specimens of Psilocybe semilanceata in one study were shown to decrease with the increasing age of the sample: collections dated 11, 33, or 118 years old contained 0.84%, 0.67%, and 0.014% (all dry weight), respectively.[118] Mature mycelia contain some psilocybin, while young mycelia (recently germinated from spores) lack appreciable amounts.[119] Many species of mushrooms containing psilocybin also contain lesser amounts of the analog compounds baeocystin and norbaeocystin,[120] chemicals thought to be biogenic precursors.[121] Although most species of psilocybin-containing mushrooms bruise blue when handled or damaged due to the oxidization of phenolic compounds, this reaction is not a definitive method of identification or determining a mushroom's potency.[112][122]
Ref [119] is Gross ST. (2000). "Detecting psychoactive drugs in the developmental stages of mushrooms". Journal of Forensic Sciences 45 (3): 527–37. PMID 10855955.
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Abstract The following questions regarding the detection of psychoactive drugs in mushrooms are addressed: At what stage of the mushroom development can the psychoactive drugs psilocyn and psilocybin be identified, and what effect does light have on the growth of these mushrooms. To answer these questions, Psilocybe cyanescens Wakefield mushrooms were grown from their spores in a controlled setting. At various times of their development, samples were taken and analyzed for psilocyn and psilocybin. Knowing what stage of development the psychoactive drugs can be identified may be useful to law enforcement personnel and forensic chemists. Methanolic extracts of various samples were analyzed by TLC and by GC/MS. It was determined that the mycelium knot stage of the mushroom was the earliest stage at which the psychoactive drugs could be detected. It was observed that light affected the time of development and the appearance of these mushrooms.
There ya go, no detectable alkaloids before knotting occurs. The culture plate I'd share would not be knotting.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: PrimalSoup]
#22643429 - 12/11/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why does my ape spawn stain....
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: azur]
#22643473 - 12/11/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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azur said: Why does my ape spawn stain....
ba dum tssss
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22643527 - 12/11/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I have always suspected those advocates of eating myc or making cake tea, etc, are also those who are big advocates of smoking shrooms. Either that or they can't grow worth a shit 
I can't speak for Cubensis, but I tripped lightly off a handful of popcorn colonized with Azurescens once.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#22643573 - 12/11/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bam
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: azur]
#22643622 - 12/11/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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azur said: Why does my ape spawn stain....
why does myc not bruise when making agar tansfers?
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: cronicr]
#22643653 - 12/11/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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My ape has...
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: azur]
#22643658 - 12/11/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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my ape won't unless the plate is colonized i have bruised my pan myc shaking it though...can't remember if it was colonized or not though..
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: cronicr]
#22643919 - 12/11/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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azur said: Why does my ape spawn stain....
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cronicr said:
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azur said: Why does my ape spawn stain....
why does myc not bruise when making agar tansfers?
I've had it happen often enough. It's like any bluing - it's a good sign, but it's not a sure sign.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#22643949 - 12/11/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said:
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Pastywhyte said: I have always suspected those advocates of eating myc or making cake tea, etc, are also those who are big advocates of smoking shrooms. Either that or they can't grow worth a shit 
I can't speak for Cubensis, but I tripped lightly off a handful of popcorn colonized with Azurescens once.
Did you pop it first
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22644060 - 12/11/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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So, the Schedule I list on the 1970 Controlled Substances Act names Psilocybin and Psilocin, re wiki:
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Psilocybin and psilocin, naturally-occurring psychedelic drugs and the main psychoactive constituents of psilocybin mushrooms.
The full text can be found here: http://www.fda.gov/regulatoryinformation/legislation/ucm148726.htm
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(c) Hallucinogenic Substances Unless specifically excepted or unless listed in another schedule, any material, compound, mixture, or preparation, which contains any quantity of the following hallucinogenic substances, or which contains any of their salts, isomers, and salts of isomers whenever the existence of such salts, isomers, and salts of isomers is possible within the specific chemical designation:
(1) 3,4-methylenedioxy amphetamine. (2) 5-methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxy amphetamine. (3) 3,4,5-trimethoxy amphetamine. (4) Bufotenine. (5) Diethyltryptamine. (6) Dimethyltryptamine. (7) 4-methyl-2,5-diamethoxyamphetamine. (8) Ibogaine. (9) Lysergic acid diethylamide. (10) Marihuana. (11) Mescaline. (12) Peyote. (13) N-ethyl-3-piperidyl benzilate. (14) N-methyl-3-piperidyl benzilate. (15) Psilocybin. (16) Psilocyn. (17) Tetrahydrocannabinols.
I'm sure you've all seen that list before, I'm sure many (like myself) have consumed quite a few of those substances.
But look here, it doesn't say "can be used to produce" it says "any material, compound, mixture, or preparation, which contains any quantity of the following hallucinogenic substances" and apparently myc before it knots hasn't got any of those things in it (well maybe DMT but so do many plants).
So it would seem exchange of unknotted cultures isn't illegal, and in any case, since there's no actives (apparently, from a study that sought to clarify this for law enforcement purposes) in them anyway that can be detected...maybe...well you can fill in the blank here.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: PrimalSoup]
#22644119 - 12/11/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Spores are for microscope use only. Why can't mycelium be for microscope use only?
Lol. Just kidding. Don't send it either way its illegal
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: oregon.trailboy]
#22644173 - 12/11/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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oregon.trailboy said: Spores are for microscope use only. Why can't mycelium be for microscope use only?
Lol. Just kidding. Don't send it either way its illegal
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: SublimeLBC]
#22644184 - 12/11/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: oregon.trailboy]
#22644712 - 12/11/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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oregon.trailboy said: Spores are for microscope use only. Why can't mycelium be for microscope use only?
Lol. Just kidding. Don't send it either way its illegal
No it isn't. 
Psilocybin spores are legal federally, but illegal in a few misbegotten states (sorry CA). Apparently mycelium that hasn't knotted (the first step in fruiting) hasn't got any actives, and so it's legal too, according to federal law - similarly to how spores are legal because they contain no actives. States might have their own statutes, like here in OR weed is now legal even though #17 (THC) on that list is illegal federally. But the feds aren't busting anybody here for possession.
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