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InvisibleTheEaglesGift
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: dankington] * 2
    #22618015 - 12/05/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Of course, I'm out of line.
my bad here:thisfuckinguy:




No worries meng.


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #22618331 - 12/05/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: dankington]
    #22619098 - 12/05/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Labeling a mexican cube "Amazonian" sounds like some bullshit that PF wouldn't have pulled.  Who knows.




did you know PF? RIP. know some don't have the highest opinion of him, but he did amazing things for this hobby. And to argue this would be moot.




I'm just assuming that mislabing the geographic origin of a strain for marketting purposes would be an uncharacteristic asshat move for a guy that revolutionized hobby scale cultivating and created a variety specifically bred for cakes.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22619108 - 12/05/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

How's pf classic do in bulk?

Does the organism really care if it's a tub or a cake?


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #22619137 - 12/05/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Never grown it myself, I wanna say tripdawg dig PFC's and they looked pretty damn nice though.

Suposedly PF bred it for cakes, and you're only supposed to trade prints from cake grows.  Great idea IMO.  It might be fun to have a MadSeasonesque shroomery community grow where we all try to find great cake isolates, then the winning isolate/clones prints get sent out to the people for a second round grow, the winner of which gets printed and sent out again until we had a special shroomery n00b variety.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22619357 - 12/05/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I definetly didn't get any fatasses. They did have some big caps and they clusterd really well in my dub tubs.


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: ralph larun]
    #22619572 - 12/06/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Hi.

At last I am inspired to write something here.

In August 2015 I bought cubensis cambodia grow kit from Elephantos. In each of 4-5 yields I got few big shrooms. I made spore print from one beautiful shroom.

30g cubensis cambodia:





I tried to work with agar culture and liquid culture couple of times, but my spores had some bacterial infection. Then I got success with PF tek method- with proper substrate and moisture content cubensis mycelium dominates and pushes bacteria away.

My first flush from my spore print and couple more are coming soon:



Difference between shroom size, cap shape and steam length proportions are so significant! Only because it have been under my control, I am sure, that this is the same strain.

Cubensis Cambodia from Elephantos growkit:


Cubensis Cambodia from my tray. (Spores taken from big ones)



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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22619645 - 12/06/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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dankington said:
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Labeling a mexican cube "Amazonian" sounds like some bullshit that PF wouldn't have pulled.  Who knows.




did you know PF? RIP. know some don't have the highest opinion of him, but he did amazing things for this hobby. And to argue this would be moot.




I'm just assuming that mislabing the geographic origin of a strain for marketting purposes would be an uncharacteristic asshat move for a guy that revolutionized hobby scale cultivating and created a variety specifically bred for cakes.




This is true, but when you consider how inaccessible the hobby seemed to so many, I dunno. And We can thank him for his leucistic and other experiments :hatsoff:


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Bramanis]
    #22619694 - 12/06/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

they look very nice, good work! and is that one shroom 3g or 30g? lol


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: MrSpadoodles]
    #22619771 - 12/06/15 01:57 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Yes! 30g shroom. My biggest from Elephantos growkit was about 45g. Caps of those big ones opened just about <30' from stem. 

My own tray giving shrooms 10 times smaller than their mother&father :wink: And caps are opening fully.





I wonder- what's the reason?!

1-Food supply from base cake?
2-Cake braking in small parts, when putted in tray and cased?
3-....


Edited by Bramanis (12/06/15 02:03 AM)


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Bramanis]
    #22619785 - 12/06/15 02:09 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

The kit was probably a killer clone or isolate. Look into culturing on agar, and you can grow bigger/fuller shrooms with a more consistent potency.


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #22619971 - 12/06/15 05:54 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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How's pf classic do in bulk?

Does the organism really care if it's a tub or a cake?




PF cared

^^Cambodians (like all MS grows) tend to vary. The genetics of the growkit probably comes from specific spawn that they use which probably gives off some nice big fruit. Also some of those sites enrich their substrate with extra nitrogen (earthworm castings), bee pollen, all kinds of ingredients that could make a difference. But the biggest factor is genetics. Are the smaller cambodians that turned up for you more prolific, and more of them than the ones from the growkit? Have you compared potency? Much of the time smaller shrooms kick the most ass, although sometimes it can be from a worse growing environment etc


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Edited by Fractal420 (12/06/15 06:02 AM)


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Fractal420]
    #22620366 - 12/06/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

What is everyone's thoughts on bruising? Here is an example, you cut some mature fruit bodies of Matzapac and notice that there isn't much bluing from the base of the stipe where you cut it, and then you do the same to whatever(lets say Malabar), and it's a dark green blue at the cut site.

Does that mean that you can basically assume the Malabar is more potent since there is more oxidation occurring at the cut site?


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: DeTwizzle]
    #22620373 - 12/06/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Eat 4gs and tell me if they're potent.

Bluing is nice to see but doesn't mean anything in the long run.


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: taGyo]
    #22620426 - 12/06/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

define long run...


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: taGyo]
    #22620431 - 12/06/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Eat 4gs and tell me if they're potent.

Bluing is nice to see but doesn't mean anything in the long run.



I beg to differ. I know that's what is said around here. But there's got to be a correlation. Look at APE for example. They are solid fucking blue. And then the weak ass mexi cubes hardly bruise at all.
And in my runs with pe, the ones that had blue on the rim of the cap got reports of being wickedly potent, abd you couldn't see the blue rim after they were dry :shrug:


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: azur]
    #22620465 - 12/06/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Damn I had APE so blue they were black. Also of note, my bunk PE barely bruised at all. Now I'm not saying that bruising = potency, I have not done nearly enough to test that. But so far most of my experience seems to bear it out.

One thing I have noted is that varieties with pigment mutations seem to blue very readily. Not sure if that corrolates to potency tho. I have not sampled AA+ tho my friends liked it. My RW bruise like mad aND so far get killer reviews. My experience with them put them close to PE.


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22620481 - 12/06/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I've had mexi cubes with almost zero brusing rock everyones socks off (clone) and random ms grows that were crazy bruised be just meh.
IME its all random, I wouldn't choose blue fruits over non blue fruits because of potency. nor the other way around :shrug:


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: spacechildo]
    #22620489 - 12/06/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Anyone know how to find magic muchroom in salar de uyuni?


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Jesselao]
    #22620514 - 12/06/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I had AA+ that barely bruised that sent me to outerspace :shrug:

On the other hand I had some Lizard King that got the job done but nowhere near the AA+ and if anyone remembers I was really excited to try the LK because it bruised blue so seriously.

Honestly I originally thought what you guys did, if it bruises more blue it has to be more active. I don't think actives are split equally throughout the whole mushroom so sometimes maybe the base just doesn't have the highest content. I cut with scissors if I can and harvest by twisting and pulling when I'm not ripping up the sub and both methods tend to not produce to many blue mushrooms with enough delicacy. Does that mean I'm growing less potent shit? My friends don't seem to think so :shrug:

I can't wait for Willsolveem to release that damn potency test so we can put this shit to rest :lol:. Interesting to hear of everyone's experiences with bruising mushrooms, funny thing is when I joined just a year ago and tried to use it as an indicator people shot me down.


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