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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #22608667 - 12/03/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Hey buddy. :super:

I live in a shit hole!



i wish i was mexican i woud be elchopo :eek:


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: tripdawg420]
    #22610437 - 12/03/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you. With AA+ specifically though will I get consistent potency in fruits from MS, like I would from MS in var. like KSSS, B+, PESA, etc.?

I mean is potency as stable in AA+ MS as it is in other Var.'s?


Edited by DrCrumbs (12/03/15 08:15 PM)


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: DrCrumbs]
    #22610630 - 12/03/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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DrCrumbs said:
Thank you. With AA+ specifically though will I get consistent potency in fruits from MS, like I would from MS in var. like KSSS, B+, PESA, etc.?

I mean is potency as stable in AA+ MS as it is in other Var.'s?




Good question, but I don't think you're going to get a straight forward answer.


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #22611000 - 12/03/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I find AA+ potency pretty stable, do you not eagle?


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Inocuole]
    #22611404 - 12/04/15 12:45 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I've grown a ton of it.. eaten very little of it.


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #22614163 - 12/04/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Is Matias Romero and PF classic the same variety? I'm familiar with some of the Matias Romero history regarding Steven Pollock, but is that the same as  PF classic?.


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: HonkyGeorge]
    #22614737 - 12/04/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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HonkyGeorge said:
Is Matias Romero and PF classic the same variety? I'm familiar with some of the Matias Romero history regarding Steven Pollock, but is that the same as  PF classic?.




I don't think so.

I think it was speculated they might be simply because they "looked similar"... but that's silly to me.

I suppose it's possible they're the same, but PF has never said they were to my knowledge and without a statement from the man directly how would anyone know for sure?


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: HonkyGeorge]
    #22614765 - 12/04/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I've read two of PF's strains, PF Classic, and Amazonian (NOT PESA,) were from Pollock's Matias Romero.  Don't seem to be great sources on the matter.  I certainly wouldn't prioritize getting all of em.

Labeling a mexican cube "Amazonian" sounds like some bullshit that PF wouldn't have pulled.  Who knows.


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift] * 1
    #22615066 - 12/04/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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TheEaglesGift said:
but PF has never said they were to my knowledge and without a statement from the man directly how would anyone know for sure?




Found this by PF himself, google lets you specify date ranges which can help.

From 17 nov 1998

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.drugs.mushrooms/uf7Zdk5ijHg/UA0ru-3IAfkJ
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It seems that the actuall
"PF shrooms" have an identity.
A Dutch friend coined the term
"FAT ASS" a while ago.
The "amazon" name refers
to "white stems - medium to
large on grain" (Stamets).
At the fanaticus site,  I used to
call the PF "strain"
--MATIAS ROMERO
because it was a "fast fruiting
amazon white stem on grain".
But who knows?  It is the
Stamets description
that I adhered to.

The PF "strain" has a peculiar
tendency to grow short with
a big fat ass (and large cap -
sometimes "caramel" colored --
actually it is a reddish hue - normal
for cubensis).  A typical
fat ass is the cake photo
logo at the SHROOMERY.  Also it
has a tendency to not have a
veil remnant on the stem
(annulas - veil remnant ring).
The stem is white and the flesh
is thick.  Much more than any
other so called "amazon"
spore print sample.

But also, it will grow tall and
slender (stropharia like) when
given the best oxygen conditions.
It won't have much of a fat ass
when it grows like this.

Also the cap of the PF Fat ass
will grow to plane and then
upturn in extreme maturity
(similar to Psi cyanescens
but without the wavy cap margin).

So if any cubie grows for you,
and you notice it has a fat ass
and no stem ring (tendancy - but
sometimes present, lightly though)
and fruits really fast (primordia
forming - distinctly faster than
other spore types tested on grain so
far) ---  it is the one and
only  PF GENOTYPE (fat ass
a.k.a  amazon) --  AS LONG AS
THE SPORES ARE FROM A CULTIVAR
AND NOT WILD.  Your local wild
cubies are not PF genotypes.

Dutch "matias romero" spore
syringes are actually
PF GENOTYPE (fat ass a.k.a.
amazon).  THis is my
fault because I called
the PF genotype Matias
Romero for a couple of years.
It sticks because the
Stamets description fits.
But actually, who knows where
Matias Romero went?  Only
the late Dr Pollock knows.

PF





on PF's site
http://www.fanaticus.com/pf-race.htm
Quote:

This is the PF spore race. It is also called "Matias Romero" at other spore sellers sites or Amazonian. It lately has picked up the name "PF CLASSIC".




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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: blackout]
    #22615237 - 12/04/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

The Amazonian name had nothing to do with location, but rather the size, as in large.


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #22615996 - 12/05/15 07:34 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks you guys. So Eagle did you get any negative reviews back on it when from MS?


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: DrCrumbs]
    #22616287 - 12/05/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Reviews back on what? AA+?


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #22616334 - 12/05/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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TheEaglesGift said:
Reviews back on what? AA+?



No that hooker we sent over for ya the other night :wink:


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: oregon.trailboy]
    #22616584 - 12/05/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #22617867 - 12/05/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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TheEaglesGift said:
I've grown a ton of it.. eaten very little of it.




but you ate it. Man asked you your thoughts, it would be nice of you to share that at least, no?


Edited by dankington (12/05/15 05:41 PM)


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: dankington]
    #22617871 - 12/05/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

TheEaglesGift said:
I've grown a ton of it.. eaten very little of it.




but you ate it. Man asked you your thoughts, it would be polite to share that at least, no?




Are you being serious right now?  I know you're not telling Eagle what would be polite to say after he's already given his bit.  I think it's perfectly polite for him to say when he's had very little experience, too little to say whether something is stable.  Would you rather him make shit up?


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22617893 - 12/05/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Labeling a mexican cube "Amazonian" sounds like some bullshit that PF wouldn't have pulled.  Who knows.




did you know PF? RIP. know some don't have the highest opinion of him, but he did amazing things for this hobby. And to argue this would be moot.


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Inocuole]
    #22617945 - 12/05/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Of course, I'm out of line.
my bad here:thisfuckinguy:


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Inocuole]
    #22617956 - 12/05/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Inocuole said:
Quote:

dankington said:
Quote:

TheEaglesGift said:
I've grown a ton of it.. eaten very little of it.




but you ate it. Man asked you your thoughts, it would be polite to share that at least, no?




Are you being serious right now?  I know you're not telling Eagle what would be polite to say after he's already given his bit.  I think it's perfectly polite for him to say when he's had very little experience, too little to say whether something is stable.  Would you rather him make shit up?



This is why you're my boy inoc. :lol:


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #22617977 - 12/05/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

:murray:


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