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13shrooms
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Machiavelliavore said: I've been wondering if high elevation cube varieties are better evolved for growing in monotubs/invitro/other fruiting chambers prone to CO2 buildup and reduced oxygen content. Part of the question would be whether the phenotype response is actually high CO2 or low O2
Nepal and Ecuador are high elevation I believe. Not sure what others might be.
Just an amusing mental musing 
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Roger Rabbit said: High CO2 levels are beneficial during colonization. It prevents most of your substrate from being turned into CO2. Without proper covering, up to 50% or more of the carbon in your substrate will be released as CO2 gas by the mycelium. In addition, many competitor fungi can't thrive in the high CO2 environment, thus it helps favor for mushroom mycelium.
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taGyo
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ralph larun said: Gyo I'm suprised you haven't come out with a new cross with those huge aa+ you just grew.
Shhhh
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Re: Chitwan Weak Genetics? [Re: taGyo]
#22589327 - 11/29/15 07:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Everyone else is sleeping taGyo
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taGyo
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Re: Chitwan Weak Genetics? [Re: azur]
#22589335 - 11/29/15 07:28 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its 9:30 am, I thought regular people were up by now
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azur
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Re: Chitwan Weak Genetics? [Re: taGyo]
#22589360 - 11/29/15 07:39 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Slackers man. Hell, even I've been up, and I'm a southern fried whore
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ralph larun
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Re: Chitwan Weak Genetics? [Re: azur]
#22589411 - 11/29/15 08:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've been up. Lookin at these awesome strains did you see the new one a vendor here has its called fat boy
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taGyo
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Re: Chitwan Weak Genetics? [Re: azur]
#22589412 - 11/29/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm going to go clean my hands
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Whitecollarhippie
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Re:STRAIN THREAD right hurrr [Re: 13shrooms]
#22591050 - 11/29/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is a really great thought. I was thinking something very similar the other day. I'd like to compare em side by side.Quote:
13shrooms said:
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Machiavelliavore said: I've been wondering if high elevation cube varieties are better evolved for growing in monotubs/invitro/other fruiting chambers prone to CO2 buildup and reduced oxygen content. Part of the question would be whether the phenotype response is actually high CO2 or low O2
Nepal and Ecuador are high elevation I believe. Not sure what others might be.
Just an amusing mental musing 
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Roger Rabbit said: High CO2 levels are beneficial during colonization. It prevents most of your substrate from being turned into CO2. Without proper covering, up to 50% or more of the carbon in your substrate will be released as CO2 gas by the mycelium. In addition, many competitor fungi can't thrive in the high CO2 environment, thus it helps favor for mushroom mycelium.
This... This is a really great thought. I was thinking something very similar the other day. I'd like to compare em side by side.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Achillita]
#22596026 - 11/30/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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"AlbiNo A+" is, entirely, the most bullshit strain _EVER_.
I knocked up a total of one..two...three..FOUR - count 'em - FOUR syringes worth of cakes
HALF: didn't do anything. No colonization of any kind.
THE OTHER HALF: took 6-8 weeks to colonize and in most cases only colonized 90-95%.
AND ON TOP OF THAT ONCE IN THE SHOTGUN NONE OF THEM YIELDED ANY MUSHROOMS!!!1
To contrast, my vendor gave me a free syringe of PF Classic, and the jar I knocked up with that reached 95% colonization in fully 3 days and then stalled b/c of the heat it was generating.
PF Classic FTW.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: franktheplank] 1
#22596046 - 11/30/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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franktheplank said: "AlbiNo A+" is, entirely, the most bullshit strain _EVER_.
I knocked up a total of one..two...three..FOUR - count 'em - FOUR syringes worth of cakes
HALF: didn't do anything. No colonization of any kind.
THE OTHER HALF: took 6-8 weeks to colonize and in most cases only colonized 90-95%.
AND ON TOP OF THAT ONCE IN THE SHOTGUN NONE OF THEM YIELDED ANY MUSHROOMS!!!1
To contrast, my vendor gave me a free syringe of PF Classic, and the jar I knocked up with that reached 95% colonization in fully 3 days and then stalled b/c of the heat it was generating.
PF Classic FTW.
This all sounds like your fault, sorry that's just reality.
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Machiavelliavore
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: franktheplank]
#22596100 - 11/30/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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franktheplank said: To contrast, my vendor gave me a free syringe of PF Classic, and the jar I knocked up with that reached 95% colonization in fully 3 days and then stalled b/c of the heat it was generating.
It's a fungus, not a self-destructive X-man.
It's either your fault or the fault of the vendor's syringes.
How much spore solution were you using per jar or per hole?
Perhaps your substrate was too wet?
How were your temps?
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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TheEaglesGift
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: franktheplank]
#22596248 - 11/30/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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franktheplank said: "AlbiNo A+" is, entirely, the most bullshit strain _EVER_.
I knocked up a total of one..two...three..FOUR - count 'em - FOUR syringes worth of cakes
HALF: didn't do anything. No colonization of any kind.
THE OTHER HALF: took 6-8 weeks to colonize and in most cases only colonized 90-95%.
AND ON TOP OF THAT ONCE IN THE SHOTGUN NONE OF THEM YIELDED ANY MUSHROOMS!!!1
To contrast, my vendor gave me a free syringe of PF Classic, and the jar I knocked up with that reached 95% colonization in fully 3 days and then stalled b/c of the heat it was generating.
PF Classic FTW.
I can't tell if you're trolling or just new to this hobby.
It wasn't the strain, it was either you or the vendor.
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MrSpadoodles
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#22596414 - 11/30/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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So I've heard that MexiCube is a strain capable of growing at colder temperatures (like 50s-60s) about just as well as other strains grow well at 70-80. I was wondering if this is really true or if all P. Cubensis grow at the same temperature, regardless of strain. And, if it does have this trait of being able to grow at cooler temps, could anyone please provide more info on MexiCube? thanks in advance
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#22596417 - 11/30/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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so much wrong
They all grow in the same parameters, and temps.
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Machiavelliavore
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: MrSpadoodles]
#22596433 - 11/30/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I find it unlikely that the multispore variety will have significantly different performance from any other normal cube variety.
If there was one, it would probably be Nepal, having most likely evolved in a colder climate. Without knowing the geography, when and where it fruits, and at what time of the year, and what kind of isolations were done to create the variety, it's hard to say.
I believe blackout was interested in finding actual strains/isolates that perform better in cold weather. I don't remember why, I think he thought they were more vigorous. He'd probably have the best idea about what varieties my tend to do well with this out of anyone, if there are any.
At any rate, start on agar, see what grows fast in your environment, then isolate from those secotors, or see what pins on the plate in those temps.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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TheEaglesGift
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22596531 - 11/30/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nepal has rain forests/jungles.
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MrSpadoodles
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#22596632 - 11/30/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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So even if someone would get MexiCube and tried to grow it indoors at this time of the year (indoor temp right now is roughly 65 degrees on average) it wouldn't provide a better yield than growing any other strain under those same conditions? will it be able to grow at all at that temp to begin with? or will it just fail to fruit or provide much of a yield?
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: MrSpadoodles]
#22596659 - 11/30/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's more about the individual genetics. A variety like Nepal may be more disposed to growing better in cool Temps but, it's also entirely possible that genetics from another variety could be found that outperform in cooler Temps.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: MrSpadoodles]
#22596717 - 11/30/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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They will pretty much all fruit at 65 degrees, just grow slower, but make better denser fruits as well. Old trick. 
This here even quotes RR about it...and uses his full name to do it...
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