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PrimalSoup
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Magic Mushrooms 4L said: Hey guys, hope that I am right here with my strain question - what is the "best" or easiest for beginners and shuld they start with such a ready to grow kit OR better via syringes? In my motherlanguage much information about growing magic mushrooms are not available, so its great to understand a "little bit" of english and found this community - generally want to say thankyou Now I want to grow magic mushrooms as well because I dont want to buy them from time to time (who knows what is really inside?). So I want to make my own. BUT.. I really dont know what is better for beginners: mushrooms growing via growkit OR via syringe from first step on - and WHICH kind of strain is the "best" for beginners? What is better and more easy for a noob to harvest shrooms succesfully. At one of the rare good german magic mushrooms blog is unfortunally written, that one as "a beginner never should grow shrooms via syringe, because it will failed when having no experiences" (quotation). ---> BUT is that really true?! I actually dont want to use a ready to grow kit; I want to grow them really by myself from the begin and my favor strain. So what is true? Should beginners start with such a ready magic mushrooms growbox OR is it even as noob possible to grow them via syringes step by step successfully?? I would then grow how your guides say like here to avoid failures. SO for making the point: Which is more useful for beginners with guaranted success: which strains and how to grow them, via kit or syringe/ spores ????
PS: moreover I am dreaming about growing magic mushrooms outdoor - but this is not possible istn it? And even not for beginners (I woulld like to grow them all aorund our forests to (re)include psilocybe in our nature). Would be SO GREAT if there a shroom strain, which I could cultivate outdoor by taking no care of it (just put the spores out und see how they grow up). Daydreaming or a serious possibility??
WHY would you believe a blog that seems to come from a kit vendor saying that if you grow them from spores you WILL FAIL? Caveat - I didn't translate the whole thing and I didn't read everything I did translate - just sayin'.
There are ample resources here and people who will be happy to help you along every step of the way - but not if you choose the dark path of the grow kit.
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Re: Which magic mushrooms strains with which cultivation way for beginners? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#22244352 - 09/16/15 03:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fuck grow kits.
Do it yourself great success.
Don't noob path.
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Re: Which magic mushrooms strains with which cultivation way for beginners? [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#22244425 - 09/16/15 05:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Outdoor cultivation is certainly possible but its not just "simply throwing some spores in nature".
You will want to learn indoor procedure first, specifically PF tek, which is the method that beginners start with, and will still get you good results.
This is the simplest explanation i have found and has pics and everything http://www.fungifun.org/English/Pftek
Skim through it to get an idea
And like tagyo said, watch this video
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Fractal420]
#22244872 - 09/16/15 08:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Time to adjust the GD thread title again..
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Inocuole]
#22250622 - 09/17/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have a few spore syringes of different cube strains that I have never grown before, and I was hoping to get your recomendations on which I should try? I have Golden Teachers (I have grown them before and really liked how they grew), Amazonians, and Ecuadors. Which should I grow or is a cube really just a cube?
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: uninc4life2010]
#22250652 - 09/17/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those three are not gonna be too noticeably different from each other.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Inocuole]
#22250658 - 09/17/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Those three are not gonna be too noticeably different from each other. 
Any strains besides Penis Envy that would be noticeably different? Everyone basically says that all cubes are pretty much the same.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: uninc4life2010]
#22250673 - 09/17/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Everyone does not basically say that.
There's differences but what are you looking for? If potency and mutants, PE, APE, KSSS, if color differences, aa+, APE, CRS. Couldn't pay me to grow a regular cube though.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Inocuole]
#22250958 - 09/17/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey now, what's wrong with regs man?
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: PinPornProducer]
#22251004 - 09/17/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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NOT EXOTIC ENOUGH!!
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Inocuole]
#22251046 - 09/17/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Spice is nice.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: PrimalSoup]
#22255147 - 09/18/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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There is no such thing as "regs" (like dirt weed) in the mushie world unless you mean shrooms that are either super old or somehow happened to turn out not potent at all (has not happened to me, and i started the use of agar, so hopefully it wont!)Quote:
Inocuole said: Everyone does not basically say that.
There's differences but what are you looking for? If potency and mutants, PE, APE, KSSS, if color differences, aa+, APE, CRS. Couldn't pay me to grow a regular cube though. 
I wouls say the more domesticated version of KSSS is pretty classic for cube characteristics. Nothing wrong with non-mutants! AA+ is just typically potent its not even an albino. I would say cambodians are on average no less potent than AA+ on average.
PE and APE tend to be very potent but its really not just them. Theyre just special types of cubes. If you have GT and EQ syringes ready, why not use both? I tend to really like the Ecuador fruits. If you put in care and love, you WILL get awesome mushies from any good (sponsor for example) spores. If you get into the hobby you can learn to isolate the most potent fruit, and grow potent stuff everytime. But even from the spore, no reason to be shitting on classic cubes.
Also if by amazonians he meant PESA, those are also very potent (imo)
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PrimalSoup said: Spice is nice. 
Yes. Yes it is. Just had some the other day after not having it for like 3 yrs. that was a hell of a voyage... Beehives, reptilians, entity contact. 30mg and a friends pro "machine" took me to the other side for a few earth minutes
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Fractal420]
#22255208 - 09/18/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nah there aren't any bad cubes that I know of but I like seeing different phenotypes expressed so I try to keep it unique.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Fractal420]
#22255214 - 09/18/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have talked about tendencies before in this thread and that is what it all boils down to. With agar nothing is impossible, you can find what you're looking for with anything. But the search might be easier with some. For example if I'm looking for something fast there are a few varieties that I will work with over others.
Speaking of speed nothing colonizes as fast for me as my Rustywhytes. The myc is very tomentose and looks and moves like oysters. Have yet to find anything that is rhyzo but the speed is still better than most other cultures i have seen. Even ms is consistantly quick. Hopefully it will be a very stabilized trait once I'm done with it.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22255241 - 09/18/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Have you already put it on a super low nutrient agar plate to see if that'll coax the rhizos out of it? Seems like something you'd have done at a guess.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22255263 - 09/18/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I have talked about tendencies before in this thread and that is what it all boils down to. With agar nothing is impossible, you can find what you're looking for with anything. But the search might be easier with some. For example if I'm looking for something fast there are a few varieties that I will work with over others.
Speaking of speed nothing colonizes as fast for me as my Rustywhytes. The myc is very tomentose and looks and moves like oysters. Have yet to find anything that is rhyzo but the speed is still better than most other cultures i have seen. Even ms is consistantly quick. Hopefully it will be a very stabilized trait once I'm done with it.
Is that the CRS/AA+? Because those def look nice been looking at the log
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Fractal420]
#22255320 - 09/18/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I have tried on low nute agar many times. Funny enough its actually faster on richer agar and really speeds up on grain. Also yes its my aa/crs cross.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22255341 - 09/18/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's some weird shit. Looking forward to seeing it float around.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Inocuole]
#22255627 - 09/18/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great stuff, guys! Very encouraging, too, for this noob.
I've been focusing on my strain of KSSS. Took 5g a couple of weeks ago, and it knocked the dog shit out of me. Turned me into Gumby at one point, with watering eyes and much yawning. Dialed it back to 3.5g, with much less yawning and watery eyes, but still a lot of Gumby. In between I took 4g with the wife of our powder, which has lots of other strains mixed together--GTs, BHTs, Texas Yellow Caps and a few Treasure Coast. Virtually no yawning and watering eyes, and able to sort of function better. Nice trip.
The difference was colors. 5g of KSSS and got lots of colors. 3.5g virtually none. But the powder was awesome for colors. So it's not just me, nor is it the delivery because I make a very nice tea, now.
(My buddy ate 5g of the KSSS dry and reported he had none of the symptoms I experience every time, but not sure I can trust his reliability. He's an optimist.)
Who's experience is the norm?
My experiements will continue. We'll keep y'all posted, if that's all right.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Fractal420]
#22255958 - 09/18/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: Spice is nice. 
Yes. Yes it is. Just had some the other day after not having it for like 3 yrs. that was a hell of a voyage... Beehives, reptilians, entity contact. 30mg and a friends pro "machine" took me to the other side for a few earth minutes
Well... ...I was referring to strains, but I'll go with what you said too.
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