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MonkeyJesusFresco
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you could check the journal links in my sig; they cover a whole bunch of stuff
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MudaFuka
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
#20210675 - 07/01/14 01:19 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mr. Alien
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: MudaFuka]
#20247177 - 07/09/14 11:04 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey guys i want to buy a panaeolus print, what is the most bass ass comercial variety?
Goliath or domesticated sandose or other?
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clara_b
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please *DELETED* [Re: Mr. Alien]
#20247491 - 07/09/14 12:20 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte
Say hello to my little friend



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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: clara_b]
#20247534 - 07/09/14 12:29 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fractal420
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The Unusual Garden said:
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MudaFuka said: I have fruited a lot of bulk cakes in my green house and I have also made a few mono and dub tubs. What I have found is the yields are about the same either way. Since each sub only has so many nuts and so much water you can only get so many fruits. Surface aria isn't that important. Bulk cakes are also higher maintenance since they lose moisture more quickly. That being said most of my current grows are bulk cakes and I am really happy with how they are doing.
So would It be trouble for you to link me to any kind of bulk for dummies link?lol...im just not getting the results i want from brf cakes.
I could write something up, I'm a dummy :P. if you're a "PFteker" and you wanna take the next step and don't know how exactly, and especially if you still wanna use the SGFC and make little tray-sized coir cakes and fruit all sides, the yield is very nice and it's not much more work than PF tek, just gotta learn grain prep and pasteurization and stuff. I could even do a pictorial or something, I notice so many for PF tek but I could write a mini bulk tutorial that "PF kids" (LOL) would understand. I mean. Let me know if I should do that? The shroomery has taught me alot and I'd love to give back
A friend of mine just did his first bulk also, but he went straight for all in one, monotub, and it got contammed. That's why maybe don't just jump in with all your spawn. If you practice with small coir cakes, not only do you learn alot about making coir work, but you get an awesome payout too. After I learned how to do it in SGFC, THEN I go for the mono, personally. But everyone's path is their own
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Atomos497
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: RogerRabbit]
#20258658 - 07/11/14 04:30 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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a cube is a cube, except for penis envy
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cronicr



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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Atomos497]
#20260110 - 07/11/14 09:33 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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what makes penis envy not a cube alien any pan cyan/cambo is fucking awesome
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TheEaglesGift
The Nagual


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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: cronicr]
#20265305 - 07/13/14 12:40 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is there a genetic difference between the penis envy carried at hawks and sporeworks? Even if they originally came from the same source, maybe they have changed over the years? The pictures that t.h.e. has up for penis envy look very much different than any I've ever grown out.
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elasticaltiger
Like Tigers in Coitus




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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#20265387 - 07/13/14 01:16 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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TheEaglesGift said: Is there a genetic difference between the penis envy carried at hawks and sporeworks? Even if they originally came from the same source, maybe they have changed over the years? The pictures that t.h.e. has up for penis envy look very much different than any I've ever grown out.
I think this would depend purely on the number of generations from the original source.
I've been wondering this myself for a long time.
Then again I grew golden teachers and they looked nothing like the golden teachers from any pictures anywhere.
The penis envy you saw in the pictures could have been a well performing isolate. Perhaps your PE grows were from spores? Even if you isolated maybe your PE isolate had features different enough that it just doesn't look like other PE isolates.
I'm going to stick with that. The pictures you saw on the websites were isolates that perform well under the conditions that their growers have groomed them for.
Your isolate is a completely different set of genetics but carrying some similarities. However it will never be a clone unless it's a clone.
Let's not forget factors of temperature / substrate.
We had a heatwave in my area the last three days and my grows have been pumping out giant shrooms.
I dunno. I just know that you can't ever look at a picture of a cubensis and then look at another cubensis picture and then look at your own cubensis and come up with a definite reason why your cubensis look different from two other cubensis.
For all the differences in genetics that appear across all non PE strains of Ps. Cubensis there are probably an equal amount of variation of genetics among PE varieties.
Look at Pussyfart's sig for some truly crazy looking PE fruits.
He got them by isolation.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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elasticaltiger
Like Tigers in Coitus




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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#20265406 - 07/13/14 01:23 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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TheEaglesGift said: Is there a genetic difference between the penis envy carried at hawks and sporeworks? Even if they originally came from the same source, maybe they have changed over the years? The pictures that t.h.e. has up for penis envy look very much different than any I've ever grown out.
Also, in other words YES. spores from both places are going to have a completely different set of genetics than any spores from anywhere else. Spores always have a factor of randomization. But that doesn't mean that within a spore print from each source there are no overlapping genetic similarities. I'm sure if you isolated every single spore from each print you would be able to eventually grow shrooms that looked similar to each-other.
What I'm trying to say is YES THEY ARE DIFFERENT.
But no more different than my golden teachers from someone else's golden teachers.
There are just too many factors that go in to every single grow to be able to differentiate genetics by picture.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
Edited by elasticaltiger (07/13/14 01:25 AM)
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cronicr



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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: elasticaltiger]
#20265436 - 07/13/14 01:37 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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it's still a cube, AA+ looks different too and columbian rust spore has brown spores but they all grow in the same conditions because there the same mushroom, pe is known to be a little more potent then other variety's but it's still a cube lol
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elasticaltiger
Like Tigers in Coitus




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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: cronicr]
#20265440 - 07/13/14 01:38 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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cronicr said: it's still a cube, AA+ looks different too and columbian rust spore has brown spores but they all grow in the same conditions because there the same mushroom, pe is known to be a little more potent then other variety's but it's still a cube lol
OMG IT'S NOT JUST A CUBE BECAUSE IT LOOKS DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER CUBES U FUCKING N00B
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elasticaltiger
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: elasticaltiger]
#20265449 - 07/13/14 01:44 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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elasticaltiger said:
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cronicr said: it's still a cube, AA+ looks different too and columbian rust spore has brown spores but they all grow in the same conditions because there the same mushroom, pe is known to be a little more potent then other variety's but it's still a cube lol
OMG IT'S NOT JUST A CUBE BECAUSE IT LOOKS DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER CUBES U FUCKING N00B
I just realized that this sarcasm would be funny if weren't actually THE NEARLY-EXCLUSIVE source of confusion among all first-year cubsensis growers.
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cronicr



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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: elasticaltiger]
#20265465 - 07/13/14 01:49 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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jerseyian
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: cronicr]
#20275863 - 07/15/14 08:53 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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cronicr said:

Lol..you guys are funny. Anywhooo, in my very limited experience I have found John Allen to be super reliable, I have not had a jar fail yet,not one. I tried Cambodians with nice results then comes golden teacher and B+. The G T I used the entire syringe on several different jars with pathetic results, either nothing happened or I would see a tiny bit of myc. which didn't go anywhere and half the time I would see contams. The B+ which I have have heard so many wonderful things about was equally pitiful. I am now trying Golden Coast and Lipa Yai. Oh I also got a nice jar of G. Luteoviridis to colonize which is just about ready to go in the field, and that was after several failed attempts. Could it be that the G.T. & B+ where just bad syringes? Also am I allowed no name the source of my spores on here or will I get in trouble?
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: jerseyian]
#20275962 - 07/15/14 09:43 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, bad syringes are an unfortunate fact of life. I've gotten them from the very best suppliers. Shit happens. No you're not supposed to name sources, SFAIK. 
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Tonydanzawillpay
compared to what

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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: PrimalSoup]
#20276012 - 07/15/14 10:02 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: Yes, bad syringes are an unfortunate fact of life. I've gotten them from the very best suppliers. Shit happens. No you're not supposed to name sources, SFAIK. 
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Yes. Its inevitable.
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jerseyian
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: PrimalSoup]
#20276100 - 07/15/14 10:38 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: Yes, bad syringes are an unfortunate fact of life. I've gotten them from the very best suppliers. Shit happens. No you're not supposed to name sources, SFAIK. 
PS
cool, that is what I thought...
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jerseyian
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Tonydanzawillpay]
#20276103 - 07/15/14 10:38 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Tonydanzawillpay said:
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PrimalSoup said: Yes, bad syringes are an unfortunate fact of life. I've gotten them from the very best suppliers. Shit happens. No you're not supposed to name sources, SFAIK. 
PS
Yes. Its inevitable.
Thank you...
-------------------- YEP I AM TREE HUGGING HIPPIE Have... several different prints. Want to trade any ethnobotanical seeds? I have lots.
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