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Pastywhyte
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Happy Littletree]
#19650582 - 03/04/14 03:13 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Most of my AA+ grew tall and hollow, but I still love em.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please *DELETED* [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19653453 - 03/05/14 06:37 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: slushie9090]
#19658347 - 03/06/14 07:09 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Rin said: Thanks everyone
Yeh cheers guys this thread really helps
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Solipsis
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Skinty]
#19741699 - 03/24/14 04:23 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey guys,
does anyone know which strain PRA could stand for? I got a print from someone a while back but I can't seem to find any info on it or remember who it was...
thnx!
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Solipsis]
#19741729 - 03/24/14 04:31 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Peurto Rican Ablino  no idea?
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Solipsis]
#19741752 - 03/24/14 04:35 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Puerto Rican Angel
Some BS they're just PR cubes. I believe some kid that went by Goodolboy on some of the other mush forums made up this "variety" which isn't anything other than more PR.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: bodhisatta]
#19741767 - 03/24/14 04:38 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Puerto Rico strain is definitely not a beginers strain. Mycelium grows strong but fruit bodies grow very slowly and require lots of attention. Humidity must be kept at 99% all the time while still giving several air exchanges daily. It is not tolerant to drastic temperature changes and only does well within 5 degrees from 70-74°F.
The Puerto Rico cubensis also hates to be sprayed even lightly. The cakes can be sprayed directly until pins develop, but then after that they cannot get wet directly or misted from high above. Just a high humidity will do the trick. If not kept just right, fruits will abort rapidly.

judging by how glaringly inaccurate the statements are I would take this with a grain of salt.
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October 2013 Update: We are now carrying the "Puerto Rican Angel" Isolation which got its name due to it growing like a perfect symmetrical angel with wings on a petri dish (a very uncommon thing) and was made popular in the Shroomotopia forum. It is genetically much better than the old Puerto Rico strain was had years ago in stock. The Puerto Rico strain has been out of stock for a few years now, but we decided to bring it back and we think this strain isolation is much better to work with. The pictures on this page show the old strain of P.R. but we will be updating with the new isolation's pictures soon!
Here's the fixed version
The Puerto Rico strain is not a strain, it's a variety. Mycelium grows strong but fruit bodies grow very slowly and require lots of attention(if you happen to get genetics that do that, but personally I would isolate for Fast colonizing Fast growing and Strong ). Humidity shouldn't be worried about too much make sure to get good FAE several air exchanges PER hour or CO2 less than 600PPM. It is tolerant to temperature changes and does well from 65-75°F.for colonization and 65-100F for fruiting.

The Puerto Rico cubensis also hates to be sprayed even lightly. The cakes can be sprayed directly until pins develop, but then after that they cannot get wet directly or misted from high above. Just a high humidity will do the trick. If not kept just right, fruits will abort rapidly.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: bodhisatta]
#19741786 - 03/24/14 04:40 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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this was my Peurto Rican Angel


j/k that was just OG PR spore, no angel was mentioned on my syringe. and by the looks of it, its more devilish
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: blindingleaf]
#19741799 - 03/24/14 04:43 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Solipsis
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: cronicr]
#19759143 - 03/28/14 08:44 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wow some freaky shizzle, thanks..
sounds like the genetics are really getting pushed just like with PE's, still not really sure I understand what a variety is as opposed to a strain. Also maybe not ideal if I want one that is just reliable and prolific, but it could produce some weird batch perhaps.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Solipsis]
#19759305 - 03/28/14 09:48 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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A strain is when two compatible hyphae meet and form clamp connections which result in dikarotic mycelium. A variety is what many people and vendors incorrectly refer to as a strain like B+ or cambodian. They are really samples of the same species that have been collected from different regions and some domestication may or may not have occurred.
When working with well established varieties, most of the extreme variation has been bred out. As this is oft typical of most of the popular "strains" they can for the most part be said to have similar traits which IMO makes the cube is a cube statement the easy response. I have been working with some wilds recently and have definitely noticed some different traits with them, that would make the cube is a cube statement less applicable. However they still are the same species so growth parameters are still typical for the most part.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19761635 - 03/28/14 08:04 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I get various strains in my underwear from time to time. Fortunately they usually wash out.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Northerner]
#19761847 - 03/28/14 09:21 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Northerner said: I get various strains in my underwear from time to time. Fortunately they usually wash out.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19764106 - 03/29/14 01:05 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: A strain is when two compatible hyphae meet and form clamp connections which result in dikarotic mycelium. A variety is what many people and vendors incorrectly refer to as a strain like B+ or cambodian. They are really samples of the same species that have been collected from different regions and some domestication may or may not have occurred.
When working with well established varieties, most of the extreme variation has been bred out. As this is oft typical of most of the popular "strains" they can for the most part be said to have similar traits which IMO makes the cube is a cube statement the easy response. I have been working with some wilds recently and have definitely noticed some different traits with them, that would make the cube is a cube statement less applicable. However they still are the same species so growth parameters are still typical for the most part.
like what kinds of variation did you see?
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: lighthouse09]
#19764270 - 03/29/14 01:44 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well this will be subject to the variables of ms as well but, compared to more domesticated variety, I found wilds to have more tomentose growth and longer pin times. This could just be all luck of the ms draw of course, and I have yet to do a lot of wild ms work, but is consistent with what I've seen from other people as well.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Pastywhyte] 1
#19765044 - 03/29/14 05:02 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Well this will be subject to the variables of ms as well but, compared to more domesticated variety, I found wilds to have more tomentose growth and longer pin times. This could just be all luck of the ms draw of course, and I have yet to do a lot of wild ms work, but is consistent with what I've seen from other people as well.
I had the same experience with the Purple Mystics. They needed considerably more FAE than any of the more domesticated varieties I've tried, too. Pasty--did you try the Ceadar Creeks? I haven't tried yet.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: BittrBuffalo]
#19765266 - 03/29/14 05:49 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not yet. I gotta stack of to do prints, and they be in that pile. So many projects so little time
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lighthouse09
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19781928 - 04/01/14 11:41 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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then outdoor mushrooms are subject to uncontrolled conditions they are stronger? better ? bigger? yes basically all outdoor grows seem to take more time because of nature takeing time instead of fake boxes etc. but isn't the end still a cube is a cube for instance you can supposedly take substrate and cold stall it i belleive some say.. wich would be the same but still i am just curious. not bein a dick or anything i see some mushrooms i find on hunts and go no way could any person grow something this huge and natural must be best but i am also sceptical
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: lighthouse09]
#19782913 - 04/02/14 08:26 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Is "A Strain" and "Allen Strain" the same thing? Just a random question that Id been wondering for a while
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: lighthouse09]
#19782926 - 04/02/14 08:30 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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lighthouse09 said: then outdoor mushrooms are subject to uncontrolled conditions they are stronger? better ? bigger? yes basically all outdoor grows seem to take more time because of nature takeing time instead of fake boxes etc. but isn't the end still a cube is a cube for instance you can supposedly take substrate and cold stall it i belleive some say.. wich would be the same but still i am just curious. not bein a dick or anything i see some mushrooms i find on hunts and go no way could any person grow something this huge and natural must be best but i am also sceptical
According to something I was reading by Stamets, wild cubes can vary by 10x differences in potency while cultivated cubes tend to be much more potent and can differ by 4x (making them more stable indoors and also more potent). Wild cubes can also interact with the environment
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