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wildernessjunkie
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Javadog]
#18383413 - 06/07/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think some of the old timers should write up a thread. It could be titled....
"The history and drama of the OMC"
I think that could be a good read.
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Javadog
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: wildernessjunkie]
#18384301 - 06/07/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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wildernessjunkie said: I think some of the old timers should write up a thread. It could be titled....
"The history and drama of the OMC"
I think that could be a good read.
LOL, but then we'd find ourselves needing a
"The History and the Drama of 'The History and Drama of the OMC'".
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Javadog]
#18406696 - 06/12/13 02:23 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just read user Joshua's thread
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1238096/fpart/all/vc/1
In it he documents the taming of a wild race, Florida Gold, that he said he wouldn't take prints of. This however, was before he fully tamed this race and I was wondering if this version is around anywhere? I was very intrigued by them and he hasn't been around since 2009 it seems, so I can't ask him.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: BearsysRevenge]
#18408646 - 06/12/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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He tamed it? How, gave it little rewards when it behaved?
Seriously, there's been mention off and on of domestication, but no examples of anybody taking a wild strain and making it produce consistently under cultivation. This is always alluded to have happened "long ago", like a bible story. 
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18408861 - 06/12/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: He tamed it? How, gave it little rewards...
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
#18409010 - 06/12/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I get a kick out of the word domesticate in terms of mycology.
The word domesticate is from latin "doma" or House/Home in english. To domesticate something means to bring it into your home. Nothing more, and nothing less.
When you domesticate an animal you bring it indoors and tame it.
When you bring a fungus indoors you emulate its environment inside a microclimate controlled environment.
As you can see, these are 2 totally different processes. Any fungus can be cultivated indoors. Fact. People have just not yet successfully created the proper microclimate for certain species.
The thing i get a real kick out of is when people say. "I domesticated a wild strain."
Isnt what they mean: They successfully created the proper microclimate for a wild specimin, grew it indoors, got prints, and handed a few out?
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Sillyputty67]
#18409118 - 06/12/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, but I was referring more to what's alluded to in the strain descriptions, sometimes you'll see something like "selected over many generations" for desired qualities.
Opposed to that you have "strain loss" from too much domestic production over generations without introducing new genetics. And I'm not even talking here about all the alleged (and some authentic) "hybrids".
In the plant world hybrids gain added vigor from polyploidy, but they don't breed true. There are examples of strain-crosses that faithfully (SFIAK) express certain qualities of both ancestors, the red-spores, the leucistic varieties.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please *DELETED* [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18409166 - 06/12/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Post deleted by malicomReason for deletion: 1
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Edited by Sillyputty67 (06/12/13 03:28 PM)
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Sillyputty67]
#18409695 - 06/12/13 05:36 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Above my pay grade but I've read some accounts on here hybridizing distinct strains. A couple of ways to go about it, SFAIK. 
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Sillyputty67]
#18409893 - 06/12/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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malicom said: The word domesticate is from latin "doma" or House/Home in english. To domesticate something means to bring it into your home. Nothing more, and nothing less.
When you domesticate an animal you bring it indoors and tame it.
I understand your point in context of mycology, but that is a very narrow way to look at the word domesticate. Cattle, goats, sheep, all these animals have been domesticated by humans (and I would like to point out that this mostly took place outdoors...) and it changed their genetic makeup because of the way humans selected which ones bred. Things do change when bred by human selection, but it takes a very long time, thousands of generations for sure.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Toe_Jam]
#18409929 - 06/12/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well back in they day when they were speaking latin, they didnt have barns. A barn and a house were synonymous. 
another example: domicile. Mind you this is only in reference to human housing.
Animal homes in their natural habitat are "claustra", exhibiting the same root word as claustrophobia. This notion meant human housing was meant to be spacious, and the perception of animal dens being small.
Latin teaches you cool tricks with latin based languages. I bet if you were to find an old latin biblical text, it would refer to the structure that christ was supposedly born in as an "ovis domae." or literally home of domesticated sheep. Or a stable would be "equis domae." Or bova domae, or avis domae, susa domae etc.....
Also more on point, how many generations would it take with a mushroom culture to prune its genetics to exhibit desired phenotypes as to stick to the majority of the spores genetics for future generations?
I really dont know, but im assuming more then any of us ever want to do.
like for instance, do you start with something like GT, and go MS, find a mutant, get its spores, go MS, try to find the same mutation through isolation, get its spores, go MS, repeat how many times before you could stabilize something like PE outta GT?
TBH now that i think about it, ive heard that doing this too many times often results in nonviable spores.
See what i mean? Shit gets confusing. Or at least this is where it gets confusing for me.
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Edited by Sillyputty67 (06/12/13 07:02 PM)
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Sillyputty67]
#18410094 - 06/12/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mushrooms have been selectively bred. Many of our most interesting cubes are the result of limiting the genetics.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Sillyputty67]
#18410483 - 06/12/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I bet if you were to find an old latin biblical text,
That'd be weird, since it was written primarily in Hebrew and Aramaic (old testament) and Greek (new testament).
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Also more on point, how many generations would it take with a mushroom culture to prune its genetics to exhibit desired phenotypes as to stick to the majority of the spores genetics for future generations?
That's what I'm talking about. 
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18412333 - 06/13/13 06:15 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said:
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I bet if you were to find an old latin biblical text,
That'd be weird, since it was written primarily in Hebrew and Aramaic (old testament) and Greek (new testament).
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Also more on point, how many generations would it take with a mushroom culture to prune its genetics to exhibit desired phenotypes as to stick to the majority of the spores genetics for future generations?
That's what I'm talking about. 
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Im not religious in the slightest, but latin was the spoken language of the roman empire during the time christ supposedly existed. Also all the ancient biblical texts were translated from hebrew and aramaic into latin by dark age monks before they were re-translated into modern language.
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Edited by Sillyputty67 (06/13/13 06:16 AM)
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Medical marijuna , kush, og kush, purple kush and white widow kush for sale [Re: Sillyputty67]
#18412451 - 06/13/13 07:20 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Medical marijuna , kush, og kush, purple kush and white widow kush for sale [Re: kinethine]
#18412457 - 06/13/13 07:22 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'll get right on that!
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: B_BOY]
#18424020 - 06/15/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Has anyone had experience with P. Costa Rica? there's very little information and most grow logs aren't very helpful. It seems this strain has negative feedback. I have an order in for this strain, and I want to know if anyone has had success with it?
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Jackthetripper7]
#18424610 - 06/15/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Jackthetripper7]
#18427045 - 06/16/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Jackthetripper7 said: Has anyone had experience with P. Costa Rica? there's very little information and most grow logs aren't very helpful. It seems this strain has negative feedback. I have an order in for this strain, and I want to know if anyone has had success with it?
Actually I do. It was the first strain I ever used with the PF tek. I'd say above average colonization period, contam resistant (Had no contams). Flushes happened around 3-4 weeks. Fruits were small for the most part except for the first one that popped out (I suppose tech my first home grown mushie too!) , very potent..the come on progressed quicker then usual imo.
Got about 3 flushes off it..
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15805837#15805837
Here's the log it was in.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Blackd0ve420]
#18445215 - 06/19/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anyone have any experience with Burma? About half of the reports say they lack in visuals, and others say they're great on visuals. SHED SOME LIGHT!
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