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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: wildernessjunkie]
#19543075 - 02/09/14 09:41 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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if drying was done above ~140F then no. Pasteurization temperatures will kill spores. your only real chance is rehydration and antibiotic agar.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: slushie9090]
#19543564 - 02/09/14 11:55 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Rin said: Pesh or mazzy? Which ones would do better on brf cakes.?
both, they're cubes. BRF cakes are made for cubes
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#19543594 - 02/09/14 12:04 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: What if drying was done under a 60wat Incand lamp? Is that temp low enough to preserve the spores?
that drying wouldn't dry them cracker dry and they would probably be moldy and gross.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Blackd0ve420]
#19554908 - 02/11/14 10:47 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok, nerd alert: if you were to make a strain, what would you call it?
I call White Rabbit. 
Culture number "x" If I were to make a Variety however I would call it "isolate for good genetic performance" IGGP cubes.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19609869 - 02/23/14 08:11 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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This thread is usually an abortion, thank you cron for some useful "variety", pun intended
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Well 1 it's not hybrid since they didn't cross any strains and 2 a hybrid is a cross between species. Crossing two varieties just added more variation the new sub variety increasing the chances of it being even more random with differing sizes and potency and even more of a cube is a cube and even more of a your mileage may vary.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Solipsis]
#19741752 - 03/24/14 04:35 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Puerto Rican Angel
Some BS they're just PR cubes. I believe some kid that went by Goodolboy on some of the other mush forums made up this "variety" which isn't anything other than more PR.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: bodhisatta]
#19741767 - 03/24/14 04:38 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Puerto Rico strain is definitely not a beginers strain. Mycelium grows strong but fruit bodies grow very slowly and require lots of attention. Humidity must be kept at 99% all the time while still giving several air exchanges daily. It is not tolerant to drastic temperature changes and only does well within 5 degrees from 70-74°F.
The Puerto Rico cubensis also hates to be sprayed even lightly. The cakes can be sprayed directly until pins develop, but then after that they cannot get wet directly or misted from high above. Just a high humidity will do the trick. If not kept just right, fruits will abort rapidly.

judging by how glaringly inaccurate the statements are I would take this with a grain of salt.
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October 2013 Update: We are now carrying the "Puerto Rican Angel" Isolation which got its name due to it growing like a perfect symmetrical angel with wings on a petri dish (a very uncommon thing) and was made popular in the Shroomotopia forum. It is genetically much better than the old Puerto Rico strain was had years ago in stock. The Puerto Rico strain has been out of stock for a few years now, but we decided to bring it back and we think this strain isolation is much better to work with. The pictures on this page show the old strain of P.R. but we will be updating with the new isolation's pictures soon!
Here's the fixed version
The Puerto Rico strain is not a strain, it's a variety. Mycelium grows strong but fruit bodies grow very slowly and require lots of attention(if you happen to get genetics that do that, but personally I would isolate for Fast colonizing Fast growing and Strong ). Humidity shouldn't be worried about too much make sure to get good FAE several air exchanges PER hour or CO2 less than 600PPM. It is tolerant to temperature changes and does well from 65-75°F.for colonization and 65-100F for fruiting.

The Puerto Rico cubensis also hates to be sprayed even lightly. The cakes can be sprayed directly until pins develop, but then after that they cannot get wet directly or misted from high above. Just a high humidity will do the trick. If not kept just right, fruits will abort rapidly.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: bengal]
#19812130 - 04/08/14 08:44 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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bengal said: Can anyone recommend to me a strain/variety that is known to produce larger fruits, and also one that is more on the "visual" side (and of at least average potency, but preferably on the stronger side)?
I would start with psilocybe cubensis, any variety pick any name you like the most.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: bengal]
#19812614 - 04/08/14 10:55 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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The golden teacher's fruited to a nice size, however I was a bit dissapointed in the effects/potency. Oakridge was better, but were super small fruits.
and the next time you grow you have the same chance of it being the other way around.
every variety has the genetic information to produce large potent fruits you just have to find them and isolate those characteristics
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: bengal]
#19812704 - 04/08/14 11:22 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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prints and syringes are the same. There's more spores on the average print than there are in a syringe but you can't use all the spores at once anyway so it really doesn't matter.
If you found a wild mushroom and took a print from the biggest one for 20 generations the chances would go up that you would keep seeing big mushrooms but you really don't have to print any special mushroom any of the ones you print even small ones have the genes somewhere in there to make bomb ass mushrooms you just have to find them. it won't be any harder or easier if your print came from a big or small mushroom. these varieties all should theoretically have come from a wild cube that went through 10+ generations to limit heterozygoticity for certain traits in favor of homozygoticity so those traits would show up more often but even still you can make a bomb B+ just as you can make a bomb GT etc...
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: bengal]
#19812852 - 04/08/14 11:54 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: otown87]
#19844413 - 04/14/14 04:17 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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otown87 said: Does anyone have any experience using eq Spore print, I'm going to be doing bulk monos with them and just wondering what I can expect from them
Vendor's products are not for the cultivation of actives read the rules.
You can expect spores. I wouldn't expect much unless you do some research.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: PrimalSoup]
#19848369 - 04/15/14 12:05 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: I believe they're asking about Ecuador (AKA EQ) variety, not a vendor. And they are listed right in the first post of the original strain thread, along with every other variety ever named on gods grey earth. 
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yes I know but if you read his post he lists a vendor that I edited out when I quoted him
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: otown87]
#19849239 - 04/15/14 03:14 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nope, we have. Its just a cube. Use agar if you want something other than average
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Wharf rat]
#19856922 - 04/16/14 09:56 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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it's P.Cubensis. and you'll never know the variety.
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RogerRabbit said: Strains are marketing driven, no more. You can't identify strains by looking, even with a microscope. Even the red spored strains show up occasionally regardless of the 'name' on the strain. Certain exceptions exist such as albinos, but remember, every strain out there will throw an albino once in a while. Clone it and you have an albino strain. RR
We need a strain thread because we were getting five to twenty strain threads started every day because people wouldn't read any of them, but simply start a new one. Now we close those so people who really want information can find it without endless, worthless discussion about strains in three or four threads per page.
I could take five different 'strains' and do a grow with each one, and then post pictures of them with a list of the five strains used. I'd bet the responses couldn't average more than 1 out of 5 correct, which are the odds if everyone simply guessed while blindfolded.
There are no cultivation parameters that are different between strains. There are no substrate parameters that are different between strains. There are no temperature parameters that are different between strains. You won't be able to identify 'strain' by looking, either with or without a microscope, penis envy and the albinos/redspore strains excepted.
Each and every strain can grow very large, or very small fruits, depending on the substrain that emerges. Each can be very potent, or inert. Each strain can produce genetics that can withstand cooler temperatures, or higher temperatures. This is what experienced growers mean when we say they're all the same. They're all the same because they're all different, even grow to grow from the same syringe.
This is why we chose to keep the strain discussion up here. It goes nowhere, but gets endlessly repeated. Have fun. RR
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gnostic19 said: guess i'm confused about strain/spore origin. He used a 3 year old syringe of creeper strain for each WBS jar which resulted in the varying cap/shrooms in each respective sub container. Still doesn't jive, right?
Marketing crap is why everyone is confused. There is no such thing as creeper strain or any other strain which can be grown from spores. A strain is a pairing of compatible hyphae, and each viable spore creates one hyphae. Since a sporeprint has many millions of spores, there are millions of strains going to be produced, not one strain regardless of the name someone wrote on the print or syringe to sell it to noobs who think it's going to perform differently than another.
There are some legitimate vendors who have narrowed down the gene pool to provide consistent results, ie albinos, PE, etc.,(check out posts by workman) but by far most of the people selling spores are unscrupulous and simply label the random syringe or print with whatever 'name' the person orders. RR
Everything you need to know about Strains and Varieities
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Wharf rat]
#19857140 - 04/16/14 10:38 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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nice uninformed post 
you've got a completely random chance of a good identification of the variety you'll get 5 different answers from 5 different people
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Wharf rat]
#19857475 - 04/16/14 11:29 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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aa+
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: blindingleaf]
#19864290 - 04/18/14 08:20 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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blindingleaf said:


you totally missed the point man. AA+ can look different from grow to grow so they're AA+ deal with it.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19877280 - 04/21/14 09:56 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: The writeup on the first page of this thread will tell you pretty much everything there is too know.
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