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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: madis503] 2
#14553080 - 06/02/11 10:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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madis503 said: wot??? do i understand right that if i mix spores from different races together i can grow shrooms that look like mix of these two races?
I never understood why this is so hard to understand.....
If you take a spore print of say Pink Buffalo, and yet another of Golden Teacher, and yet one more of a Malabar. Present these prints and a proper description to someone who can do a proper identification. They are only going to tell you one thing,that you have found samples of P. Cubensis.
Strains are nothing more than a baseline set of dominant genetics, of the same species of mushroom. But they are all still Psilocybe Cubensis. Doesnt matter how many different sets of genetics you mix, you still get cubes. Maybe those genetics carry over, maybe they dont, theres no way to tell.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: nuckles101] 2
#14556803 - 06/03/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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nuckles101 said: hello, im a fairly new to the site. I came a cross a thread inwich it explained experiments of crossbreeding pan cyan with a cube. i had a few questions. 1 can you cross pan cyan with Panaeolus cinctulus, easily, sense there in the same species just like one can easily cross any two cubes? 2 can i cross redboy with Panaeolus cinctulus easily? 3 or is it better to cross redboy with cubensis? 4 i have also read that redboy was actualy a cross between azures and a cube. i assume this is completely false but any guidance or confirmation is greatly appreciated. 5 the info iv found for redboy is so vegue. what are some special properties of this hybrid I.E. faster colonization, drought resistant, different temperature for colonizing/fruiting ect? 6 reasons why there caps are so red and why there spore print is red? 7 what cube did you use for this crossbreed? 8 can cubes or any mushroom grow well in arid regions like texas? i know cubes grow in texas but can they be found in the desert areas when they get into the "rainy" season? Thank you for your time and efforts!
1. No. Pan Cyan and Pan Cinct are different species. You cant cross species. 2. No. P. Cubensis and Pan Cinct are different species too. 3. Redboy is already a Cubensis. 4. You're thinking of the false , made up marketing story of B+. 5. Cubes are cubes. Growth parameters are the same regardless of strain. Same actives in all the strains too, though some people will argue that the trip is different. I've not found this to be the case, I think mind set and setting influence the trip far more. 6. Genetic mutation or recessive genes I would suspect. 7. I don't know the answer to this. 8. Its pretty unlikely that youll find them in the desert. Though anything is possible I guess. Good news is that they grow anywhere indoors.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: OoBYCoO] 2
#14556828 - 06/03/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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OoBYCoO said: Do a search for "rattle snake venom" and "hybridization" by RR and that might answer some of your questions.
Oh yeah and 
I guess I should have added a statement about all of that being at the basic level. Without advanced education in Mycology, and genetics too I would imagine.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: occollegeboi] 1
#14578115 - 06/08/11 02:56 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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occollegeboi said: I think I want to grow the "texan" strain next. I want to try this one because of its dense fruits and because they don't need much light at all (they can fruit in the dark).
Cubes WILL fruit in the dark, though you would have better results otherwise.
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occollegeboi said: I already have 1/2 pints, which I'm using right now for my B+, but would 1/4 pints work and still give the same dense flushes as a 1/2 pint would?
1/4 pints are best used for spore solutions, and liquor shots.
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occollegeboi said: I've read that the difference is that you get smaller fruits. About how much of a difference does it make? Thanks.
Thinner substrate = Smaller fruits
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Bellymonster26 said: Has anyone ever tried the golden mammoth strain from sporepod/shroomery peoples? I have not heard much about this strain and I am curious
Ive got a print of this. The story I heard was that it is the latest "Creation" from Keeper. So....you can probably fill in the rest of the story from there.
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Re: Chitwan [Re: Echidna] 1
#14646562 - 06/21/11 01:38 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you like the Chitwan then go with it. But there wont be a significant difference between it and the "vendor's choice".
They will both still be P. Cubensis.
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Larrythescaryrex said: Also, I gave away a number of these prints and tried to get a TC to take one and nobody wanted to so if you don't believe me please kindly bugger off.
I just had an idea. I want one of those. sent.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: ragehead]
#14877708 - 08/05/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think most people are swabbing the gills these days. Sterile swab then agar, then using the agar to inoculate.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: OoBYCoO]
#14937935 - 08/17/11 03:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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OoBYCoO said: When I do, which is rare these days, is b/c I'm looking for a specific specie/strain/variety that I can't get from the marketplace I always go to them first.
Same for me. Though I have also lost a lot of faith in being able to reliably get a properly made print from the marketplace. Ive done a few trades where I was just like WTF is this? So now if there is something that I really want, then I just go to a sponsor.
For those of you who are doing the print teks right, keep up the good work.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: K K] 1
#15090376 - 09/17/11 02:05 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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K K said: By reading the first couple of posts my understanding is that if I were to grow the Golden Teacher on one rice cake and the penis envy on another, the stats such as potency and growth rate could very well be the same unless I use agar to find the optimal strain? I could end up getting the Golden Teacher to grow faster but weaker potency and have the opposite effects on strain of the penis envy?
But the part about growth rate and potency is in a general sense correct. There are so many variables involved that nothing is concrete, but regardless, you are still dealing with the same species.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: K K]
#15090644 - 09/17/11 05:44 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just realized that the current incarnation of this thread is only 3 1/2 months old. And it has over 14,000 views. It amazes me how much interest and misconception surrounds "Strains".
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: F64]
#15096569 - 09/18/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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F64 said: Comparison of Mex A, ATL7, Tampenensis, Atlantis Sclerotia - anyone? Anyone?
Stonesun has some good stuff in his journal regarding yeilds.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: OoBYCoO]
#15368898 - 11/14/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Illusion Weavers are Keeper brand cubes.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: growchow]
#15370205 - 11/14/11 05:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you did that then you it will still grow Cubes. But you wont be able to trade the spores. You're "strain" as it was marketed wouldn't be desirable to anyone.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: growchow]
#15370292 - 11/14/11 05:55 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Less than 1cc even can get the job done reliably.
And a cube is a cube even if it is PE. PE is still P. Cubensis, its just reportedly more potent.
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Squall409 said: Has anyone tried to grow F+?
No. No one has ever grown F+. ever.
People have only tried.
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PinsWellWithOthers said: Also in before bunk+
I like B+. Had great success with it. I think it gets a bad rap due to being the first strain most new kids screw up on. Ive had nothing but big potent fruits from B+.
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With the advertising that goes on with the vendors, B+ is usually marketed as a very Noob friendly variety. Problem with first time growers is that they want to have mushrooms RIGHT NOW.
I think that a huge contributor of low potency is lack of consolidation time. I think noobs are in such a hurry that they birth their cakes too early, which contributes to poor potency. Combine this with shortcuts and a little half-assism to try and put a first grow together. It all just contributes to a bad reputation.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: maug]
#15464269 - 12/04/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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maug said: Do all cubes make you nauseous if you eat them without any prep?
I traded a slower onset time for no nausea. Powdered and capped FTW.
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nuckles101 said: How does one creat a hybrid, meaning how do you cross two diffrent species of mushrooms?
I'm sure there would be millions in Grant or VC money flowing your way if you could figure out how to do this successfully.
If he means species as in verities with in the same species then no but if he means species as species then wow. Yea.
When you figure that out. I think you should cross oysters, and Azures.
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