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Case/monotub question
    #14514143 - 05/26/11 08:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I attempted to use the "Shroom Wizard's Grow Guide" (who happens to claim that this method is great for beginners) and followed procedure step by step, while implementing some techniques from other teks. I crumbled about four cakes, cased them, and waited. Patched a couple places, then noticed a mushroom growing on the side of the tub and on the bottom, underneath the casing. What the hell did I do wrong and will there be more mushrooms? There is no overlay so I think it's okay for now. This tek seemed easy enough, but I'm not sure it's all that great. Perhaps I need more patience.


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Re: Case/monotub question [Re: skeetNyoEYE]
    #14514205 - 05/26/11 09:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

the tek is terrible, and you didnt follow it precisely.

start some new cakes and PM me when you need to build a fruiting chamber.

we'll get you some mushrooms :thumbup:


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Re: Case/monotub question [Re: k00laid]
    #14516885 - 05/26/11 06:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Actually, I did follow it precisely, except when it came to keeping the jars completely sealed as he said (bc of gas exchange and such. But since you said the tek is terrible, that seems to be the flaw.

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Re: Case/monotub question [Re: skeetNyoEYE]
    #14516902 - 05/26/11 06:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

sounds like light is hitting the mycelium under the casing


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Re: Case/monotub question [Re: just me]
    #14525390 - 05/28/11 08:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Can anyone answer my question? I need to know if it will recover by placing the entire casing in a fruiting chamber of some kind. I already know the things that trigger pinning bc I tried cakes before, I just need to know if the myc in the casing is still okay.


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Re: Case/monotub question [Re: skeetNyoEYE]
    #14525410 - 05/28/11 08:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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What the hell did I do wrong and will there be more mushrooms?




not sure, yes maybe. hopefully

i answered what i thought you might have done wrong the first time

but this new question seems like it has a simple answer, but maybe im not getting it

you should leave it in the monotub as far as a FC goes

is there any specific reasons you would change the FC?


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Re: Case/monotub question [Re: just me]
    #14525431 - 05/28/11 08:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I guess I was asking another question..... anyway, to be specific, the casing is in a tub, now will it do me better to place that tub in a bigger tub so it can increase RH or what?


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Re: Case/monotub question [Re: skeetNyoEYE]
    #14525440 - 05/28/11 08:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Does it let light into the bottom around the mycelium? If so you can cover it up with tape or paint the outside dark so light doesn't cause side pinning.


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Re: Case/monotub question [Re: MegaGoomba]
    #14525498 - 05/28/11 09:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i would leave it in the tub it colonized in

the tighter it fits in that tub the more surface pinning youll have, no more side mushrooms(usually love side mushrooms, they only look a few inches tall, but then you find out its stemming from the center of the bottom of the sub, it makes it like 30" long :lol: )


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Re: Case/monotub question [Re: just me]
    #14525520 - 05/28/11 09:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Can we see some pics of the current situation?

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Re: Case/monotub question [Re: sage1o1]
    #14525547 - 05/28/11 09:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'll get it up in a bit.... btw, from what I researched, what I have going is not actually a monotub, per se. I only put that in the title to grab someone's attention.

BRB.


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Re: Case/monotub question [Re: sage1o1]
    #14525570 - 05/28/11 09:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)




Would it help if I put perlite in the bottom of tub B and placed tub A inside?


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Re: Case/monotub question [Re: skeetNyoEYE]
    #14525572 - 05/28/11 09:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

skeetNyoEYE said:
I'll get it up in a bit.... btw, from what I researched, what I have going is not actually a monotub, per se. I only put that in the title to grab someone's attention.

BRB.




place fully colonized substrate into fruiting chamber.

if you dont know what fruiting chamber you should use, click the link in my sig titled PROPER SGFC


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Re: Case/monotub question [Re: just me]
    #14525574 - 05/28/11 09:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I didnt find the actual tek u used but a quick search came up with about 100 threads saying it was garbage. Search ohmatic monotub. He is the one who came up with the monotub. Do some research there's a shit ton of info on this site. Use it to you advantage. As far as your tray/tub not much u can do except see what happens. Good luck

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Re: Case/monotub question [Re: k00laid]
    #14525578 - 05/28/11 09:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

tub a just needs holes drilled in it...

and the substrate isnt fully colonized.

you should wait before introducing fruiting conditions.


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Re: Case/monotub question [Re: skeetNyoEYE]
    #14525645 - 05/28/11 10:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the help, my fellow brethren. I'll read more and learn more. Just when I think I've read everything, more pops up and I think to myself, "WTH???".


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Re: Case/monotub question [Re: skeetNyoEYE]
    #14525681 - 05/28/11 10:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Would it help if I put perlite in the bottom of tub B and placed tub A inside?




No, not if you're trying to raise relative humidity in chamber A. 

The problem could be so many things.  How often do you mist/fan?  What's your light cycle?  12 on, 12 off is best.  Optimally you should use either 6500k bulbs or actual day light.  I know you said you know the pinning triggers but a review never hurt anyone.  Are you using a multi-spore inoculate?  Because that's a roll of the dice, as you probably know.  I remember RR saying one time that the number one pinning trigger is saturation (not overly so) of the mycelium, then evaporation due to fresh air exchange.

I hope I haven't missed the mark on what you're looking for.  As far as a final answer to the question about the mycelium being ok, it's hard to say really because of the casing, but as long as it's not dried out and it hasn't produced mushrooms (not many anyway), then it still should be good.  Maybe a dunking is in order...

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