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will verm work as a casing alone?
    #14523913 - 05/27/11 10:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

just like the subject line says. Can I use vermiculite all by itself to case a tray of colonized WBS?


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Re: will verm work as a casing alone? [Re: zzantium2999]
    #14523921 - 05/27/11 10:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You can, but verm by itself makes a poor casing layer.  You'd be better off to use it as a bulk substrate and mix the grains into it well.  Be sure to 'frost' a small amount of verm on top to cover all the grains.
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Re: will verm work as a casing alone? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14523942 - 05/27/11 10:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, mix the WBS with verm in a 1:1 ratio and let it colonize. This improves yields a lot more than casing grains alone. If you want you can get some free coffee grounds from Starbucks and spawn to that too but its no big deal. :happyheart:

For casing layer use 50/50 verm/peat moss. You can get giant blocks of peat moss for $6 at Lowes which lasts forever.


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Re: will verm work as a casing alone? [Re: Gzaajhom]
    #14524229 - 05/27/11 11:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I case my WBS cakes with straight verm, check the F+ grow in my sig. I havn't tried using the verm as a bulk sub and compared results so I can't say how much more yield you will have.

The answer to your question is "Yes". The second half of the answer to your question is that there are ways to further increase yields if you have the desire to do so. The peat/verm I hear works great for casings. Add a little poo/coir to the wbs then case gives even better results


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I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
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Re: will verm work as a casing alone? [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14524246 - 05/27/11 11:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Add a little poo/coir to the wbs then case gives even better results



Indeed. You should check Craigslist for any farms giving out free horse manure in your area, it really is worth it.


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Re: will verm work as a casing alone? [Re: Gzaajhom]
    #14524411 - 05/28/11 12:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I got lucky that my uncle has a horse farm and half of it has 30+ year old dried poop. perfect!!!


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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~


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Re: will verm work as a casing alone? [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14524587 - 05/28/11 01:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I thought that you wanted fresher poop than that. I just got about 1,000 lbs. (1/2 ton) of old poop today for the garden and figured I would go out and collect some nuggets for "hobby work".

If I can just use the old stuff that would save me from crunching nuggets which is a thankless job to say the least.


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Re: will verm work as a casing alone? [Re: bootster]
    #14524717 - 05/28/11 02:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, the older the better! I love the old shit!


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We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze....

                   

FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~


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Re: will verm work as a casing alone? [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14525108 - 05/28/11 06:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I got lucky that my uncle has a horse farm and half of it has 30+ year old dried poop. perfect!!!




It's perfect if you're growing white button mushrooms for the grocery store.  If you're growing P cubensis, you want manure that's less than a year old, while being fully dried and field aged in the sun.  Performance will be much better than 30 year old compost, which is better suited to a garden area for plants.
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