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ET H. americanum again
    #14522365 - 05/27/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Its finally fruiting.
At least what I put in a bag on just tanoak sawdust is fruiting. The sawdust comes as a coarse to fine blendl.
The bag from ET (on the left in the images below that show two bags), though colonized is not doing so well. Its not showing any sign of contamination but would likely rather be living someplace other than stuck inside a bag for 5 months?
To me that suggests the reason that fruiting was not occurring was likely something involving the substrate of the commercial pre-prepared bag? As mentioned elsewhere I don't know what that was composed of so don't really know much else. I know the local tanoak works so am quite happy with that.


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29 May 2011 (its starting to pick up some color)



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Re: ET H. americanum again [Re: kotter]
    #14540711 - 05/31/11 01:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Is this a different species from erinaceus?


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Re: ET H. americanum again [Re: arago]
    #14541391 - 05/31/11 04:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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arago said:
Is this a different species from erinaceus?




Yep.


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Re: ET H. americanum again [Re: MonkeyKnifeFight]
    #14544861 - 06/01/11 08:43 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:aweoverdose:

Nice one bruvaaa!


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Re: ET H. americanum again [Re: MonkeyKnifeFight]
    #14544868 - 06/01/11 08:46 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

From what I've read they can be easily differentiated by this one being branched when sliced open. I'll be doing that whenever this one heads towards a frypan so will take a photo.
This is the first fruit I've ever seen in person outside of in miniature on petri dishes and I know little of anything about it.
I don't know whether to treat this like erinaceous and assume its going to pick up a bitter or sour flavor as it gets larger and older (ie better picked sooner) or if its like corolloides and should be permitted to grow as long as possible (prior to orange showing up).
Any advice on best point of harvest is greatly appreciated.
It looks like its still got development left to do but is fast approaching two inches at the long point. I'll keep watching it and probably would wait until I see something adverse before harvesting.


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Re: ET H. americanum again [Re: kotter]
    #15235197 - 10/16/11 06:41 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

As an update on this, this has been fruiting occasionally every few weeks or so on one or both of two bags and once in total on another one through its filter patch (the third image below). I noticed a little green mold inside the edge of the stem when it was harvested so my guess is that one might be done for me. It was sitting out colonizing when I lost track of time and it decided to fruit. I put it in a fruiting chamber and it got much larger very fast.

Does anyone know anything about this species?
It smells and tastes great but has an intensely bitter aftertaste.
Mixed with the right foods that can work.


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The yellow tint is the tungsten in the lighting in the kitchen.


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Re: ET H. americanum again [Re: kotter]
    #17613253 - 01/26/13 10:02 AM (11 years, 5 days ago)

Haven't visited in a while.
I know I'm bumping an old thread but wanted to post an updated view of some fruit. The older one I've just been watching to see how far it goes.
I'm very slowly starting to get this figured out.




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Re: ET H. americanum again [Re: kotter]
    #17616387 - 01/26/13 09:59 PM (11 years, 5 days ago)

Nice. That looks funky


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Re: ET H. americanum again [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #17616687 - 01/26/13 10:55 PM (11 years, 5 days ago)

do you have those fruiting from wood chips!?

great show btw! :thumbup:


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Re: ET H. americanum again [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #17633073 - 01/30/13 01:12 AM (11 years, 2 days ago)

Thanks. I'm really happy with these despite the problems starting out.
They are on tan-oak (Lithocarpus) with some gypsum (~3% by dry volume). The older one lacked any other supplementation. The smaller one was on a mix that had some wheat bran, and possibly fuel pellets but I would need to go look at that in the light to be sure my memory is right (I'll edit this post if that is not right). I tried a few different blends this last year and learned the unsupplemented and the bags with the least levels of wheat bran did best for my local situation (northern slope under tall trees in Mendocino County). Complex blends had higher incidences of contaminants. Simple seemed best.
I'd imagine lots of other hardwoods would work too.
The tan-oak comes as a range of particle sizes from chain saw sized debris to sawdust.


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