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Bolt420
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Not sure if I should do shrooms again.
#14521127 - 05/27/11 02:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hello. I'm not sure if I want to do shrooms again. I've done them 3 times and the 3rd time was very troubling.
About a week ago or so, I did my first eighth with a few friends. It was going fine and then all of a sudden my friend just freaked out, and was for the duration of the trip. Now, I don't have much experience with psychedelics but I wasn't aware that someone could freak out that badly.. I am thinking about not doing them again because the stuff he said was, quite frankly, disturbing. He was talking about killing himself and how he'd slit his throat right then and there. He was talking about how we are all going to hell and that the world was ending, and tons of other crazy shit... It really freaked me out.. I would've been fine without him there, it's just his actions and the vibes freaked me out.
So, what do you think? Any advice or tips is very much appreciated.
Thank you. Peace.
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SlyTingz2009


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Re: Not sure if I should do shrooms again. [Re: Bolt420]
#14521164 - 05/27/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bolt420 said: Hello. I'm not sure if I want to do shrooms again. I've done them 3 times and the 3rd time was very troubling.
About a week ago or so, I did my first eighth with a few friends. It was going fine and then all of a sudden my friend just freaked out, and was for the duration of the trip. Now, I don't have much experience with psychedelics but I wasn't aware that someone could freak out that badly.. I am thinking about not doing them again because the stuff he said was, quite frankly, disturbing. He was talking about killing himself and how he'd slit his throat right then and there. He was talking about how we are all going to hell and that the world was ending, and tons of other crazy shit... It really freaked me out.. I would've been fine without him there, it's just his actions and the vibes freaked me out.
So, what do you think? Any advice or tips is very much appreciated.
Thank you. Peace.
Don't let his experience get the better of you, He most probaly had a bad trip and was panicking. Enjoy these natural wonders on your own or without him. Enjoy them and don't take notice of what he was saying.
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creationdivine
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Re: Not sure if I should do shrooms again. [Re: Bolt420]
#14521204 - 05/27/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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you were just
as many here will tell you, mindset and setting are some of the most important factors to a psychedelic experience. Shrooms show me some disturbing things about my mind as well, which makes me feel like I need to hide underground or something . If you can make sense of it- the more you let the experience take you, the more control you will have.
on that note, maybe you should wait a few more months and ponder your trip until you are ready to experience it again.

edit: my bad, I didn't realize your friend is what mainly freaked you out. Have you talked to him since, and does everything seem alright with him?
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Edited by creationdivine (05/27/11 02:21 PM)
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Libertin
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Re: Not sure if I should do shrooms again. [Re: creationdivine]
#14521244 - 05/27/11 02:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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What are you scared of? That you'll have a similar experience to what he had? I would suggest that HE doesn't do shrooms again. I think you should continue to use them if you want to.
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frostz
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Re: Not sure if I should do shrooms again. [Re: Libertin]
#14521331 - 05/27/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It was his bad trip, not yours. Maybe he shouldn't do shrooms. I've had about 2/9 pretty bad trips which isn't too bad. Don't do em too often, use it as a sort of spiritual type of thing when you want to get in touch with yourself often, not to just get FUBAR.
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drr

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Re: Not sure if I should do shrooms again. [Re: frostz]
#14521457 - 05/27/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Definitely don't eat mushrooms with him again!
I would have a bummer of a trip if somebody with me was talking about that kind of stuff too.
That's why some people suggest tripping alone. I like to trip with people but it's best to do it with people you trust/love. People that you have tripped with before, and don't tend to freak out. I guess there's a first time for everything and I've been in a similar situation, minus the suicidal stuff. Don't let it affect you so much - as hard as it was on you, imagine how it was for him. You were fine, you were just very susceptible in your state to deal with something like that. Just be happy it wasn't you.
If you go into your next trip expecting it to happen to you, then you just might have a bad time. Stay positive and confident, or don't dose.
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Bolt420
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Re: Not sure if I should do shrooms again. [Re: drr]
#14521542 - 05/27/11 03:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not sure I'm necessarily worried about it happening to me, But I just want to avoid a situation like that all together. The only way I know it won't happen again is if I don't dose again. My friend and I had to hold him down just so he didn't run away and do who knows what. It was just extremely stressful and emotionally draining and don't want to have to deal with it again. I'm still giving it more time to think it over, I am unsure. I appreciate the responses though.
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Re: Not sure if I should do shrooms again. [Re: Bolt420]
#14521975 - 05/27/11 04:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shrooms are anything but predictable. Sure, they can shatter and change your perspective on things. But they can also amplify how you usually are with no doubt about it. Maybe the individual who freaked out never would do that high or sober, and might not seem like such a dark person.
But we can all hide so much of ourselves, its hard to know what a persons mind and inner self can truly be like... Unless they end up letting go and pour it all out on shrooms. Ive seen this a few times, and afterwards really noticed it wasn't the trip that made these people so act so negative. Thats how they were, and pretty good at hiding their worse traits and thoughts.
Have confidence with who you are. Trip on, but with out people.
My best friend, and exclusive tripping partner are thinking about hanging up the social mushroom trips for good. We've spilled our souls, worse sins and things to each other when we never wanted to on shrooms, and it brought us together like brothers with no doubt. But the friendship chemistry is there. Unlike DMT, Mescaline, or Molly..
Mushrooms are a very personal drug/experience, and the last trip me and my friend had made us realize maybe too personal to risk doing with other people if you actually care about the outcome of your relationship with those people.
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frostz
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Re: Not sure if I should do shrooms again. [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#14522605 - 05/27/11 06:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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People always ask me why I do shrooms by myself. It's not because I'm a loner. They don't seem to understand that I don't just do them to get fucked up, it's a spiritual experience and self-discovery that I'm aiming for when I do shrooms. I don't want to worry about anyone else having a shitty trip, I want to concentrate on what the trip is showing me.
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AnarchyXx420xX
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Re: Not sure if I should do shrooms again. [Re: Bolt420]
#14522783 - 05/27/11 06:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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don't trip with people like that, thats no reason for you to not continue using them for you.
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the locked shroom
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Re: Not sure if I should do shrooms again. [Re: AnarchyXx420xX]
#14522810 - 05/27/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Seriously, your friend is retarded. I think a big part of doing these things is finding the right people who you can trust to not fuck things up.
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iSHACKA
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listen to me dude, you had a hell of a first trip because of your friend. You now have a negative association with shrooms. You need to not do them, untill you recover from this trauma. when the time is right they will be in your mouth already (shrooms) and it will be right
next time choose things carefully.
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Racinette
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Re: Not sure if I should do shrooms again. [Re: iSHACKA]
#14523537 - 05/27/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think your buddy has some issues he needs to deal with
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KrizzKaliko
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Re: Not sure if I should do shrooms again. [Re: Racinette]
#14540990 - 05/31/11 02:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Answers here sound dead on to me.
I always hear about the nuts that do some boomers or lsd, then go gut someone thinking they are a 'devil' (obviously more extreme than your case, but you get my drift). Imo, these people are already disturbed, and anything else (excessive alcohol, panic attack, termination from a job) could have caused such a thing. Seems more to me that hallucinogens can 'bring out' mental breakdowns, or 'flip a switch' but certain conditions still need to be pre-set. Ive done mushrooms, well, its hard to guess but id say over 50 times. Ive NEVER had an 'episode'. Ive lost my shit in my own head, ive gotten the giggles, ive gotten sick, and once in a while even a little depression.
These 'freak outs' (as you described it) have never happened to me ever. I just don't think im wired that way, and it doesn't sound like you are, but maybe your friend is. If it isn't his wiring, maybe its environment/life stress that induced it, and he needs to seek a little bit of help. Good time for you to come through and recognize trouble in a friends life though.
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ifoundwaldo


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Re: Not sure if I should do shrooms again. [Re: drr]
#14541243 - 05/31/11 03:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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drr said: Definitely don't eat mushrooms with him again!
This would be the only thing I'd take away from that situation.
Carefully choose the people you trip with. Ideally, trip alone or with a close (boy/girl)friend. (3-4 people tripping together is starting to push it IMO but should be fine with the right people.)
I used to trip with lots of friends and new trippers back in college. Having to save delusional strangers from themselves is no fun.
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VTtripper
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Re: Not sure if I should do shrooms again. [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14541289 - 05/31/11 03:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can't believe nobody has said this yet...
Don't take an eighth if you're worried about it... try a more recreational dose like 2g.
An eighth can be a very powerful trip if you're not ready for it. As Chris Farley says in Billy Madison "I know from experience, dude"
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Pigasus
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Re: Not sure if I should do shrooms again. [Re: VTtripper]
#14541323 - 05/31/11 03:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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almost every gets a bad trip once in a while, I've never had a truly disastrous trip but I've some rather unpleasant ones what with the negative thought patterns and all, this one time I was planning on tripping around a bunch of my friends and right when I was starting to come up almost everybody just ditched me and for whatever reason it really kinda fucked with my trip even though I love to trip solo.
but I've found that when all is said and done the unpleasant trips can be just as much of a rewarding learning experience as the good ones. so try not to associate tripping with a bad experience like that...just give it some time, try it again with a fresh mindset, and break on through to the other side
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