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Invisibledr_gonz

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    #14521746 - 05/27/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Obama renew's PATRIOT Act, why? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #14521764 - 05/27/11 03:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I would not go that far


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Re: Obama renew's PATRIOT Act, why? [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14521778 - 05/27/11 03:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well actually Congress renewed it, but it looks like Obama is going to sign it, so I guess that's close.


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Re: Obama renew's PATRIOT Act, why? [Re: uber_aj]
    #14521799 - 05/27/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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uber_aj said:
You don't see any correlation between post 9/11 fear and all of those (except the K9 wait) being upheld by US courts in the following decade? Really?

I'm not saying the Patriot Act is the cause of those other 4th amendment tragedies, but you're a fucking idiot if you don't see the common denominator; our fear of ghosts.




No, I fucking don't, but I wasn't born last nigh. 
It never fucking ends.  People babble and whine about the Patriot Act and never find anything in it to cite.  Instead you get all tangled up in other legislation and judicial interpretations of other things and then scream "PATRIOT ACT!"  Look, I'm likely more radical than anybody about drug laws, but I refuse to pervert legitimate government efforts to protect the populace just so some stupid stoner who blew smoke in a cop's face won't be prosecuted.  Change the drug laws.  Not changing the drug laws is no reason to eliminate useful law enforcement practices that prevent violent crime.


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Re: Obama renew's PATRIOT Act, why? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #14521801 - 05/27/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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dr_gonz said:
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zappaisgod said:
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dr_gonz said:
was my question unreasonable?



Which one?




I asked you for your thoughts about this being the first law ever signed with an autopen



Oh.  Don't care.


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Invisibledr_gonz

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    #14521802 - 05/27/11 03:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Invisibledr_gonz

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    #14521807 - 05/27/11 03:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Obama renew's PATRIOT Act, why? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #14521828 - 05/27/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I liked this, though:
http://twitter.com/#!/timpawlenty/statuses/73857607261097985

Quote:

@BarackObama sorry to interrupt the European pub crawl, but what was your Medicare plan?




He he.


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InvisiblePrisoner#1
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Re: Obama renew's PATRIOT Act, why? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #14521874 - 05/27/11 04:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:





Obama's an asshole for continuing the patriot act but Bush is a hero for signing it into law in the first place and extending it at least twice (that I remember) during his presidency.

Anyway, you are half right.  Obama is an asshole.  But so was Bush.  American democracy no longer exists.  We now live in a fascist state.





I'm completely right, I never defended bush, simply stated that obama is an asshole

thogh I believe no that they put McCain up against Obama so obama would
win and make bush look like  a much better president than he was


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Re: Obama renew's PATRIOT Act, why? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14523790 - 05/27/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

all politicians are liars all corrupted by the spotlight and power all wanting to please the majority of people in order to stay in power instead of doing the "right" thing. obama simply sets a new standard for this fake ass bullshit.. obama is a bitch

        :slaves:    this is really what obama desires


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Re: Obama renew's PATRIOT Act, why? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #14523827 - 05/27/11 10:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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dr_gonz said:
I thought it was interesting that the extension of the Patriot Act was signed with an autopen. :smile:




Interesting as in it should render the act void because the president didn't sign it. It's unconstitutional... then again so is the patriot act.


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Re: Obama renew's PATRIOT Act, why? [Re: Devlish2]
    #14524046 - 05/27/11 10:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)
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Will bin Ladens's Death help obama's approval rating ?

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Re: Obama renew's PATRIOT Act, why? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14524212 - 05/27/11 11:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

They're naive Zappa. 90% are just regurgitating what they have heard or read from other biased materials and are not providing opinions of their own.


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InvisiblePrisoner#1
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Re: Obama renew's PATRIOT Act, why? [Re: Devlish2]
    #14525347 - 05/28/11 08:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Devlish2 said:
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dr_gonz said:
I thought it was interesting that the extension of the Patriot Act was signed with an autopen. :smile:




Interesting as in it should render the act void because the president didn't sign it. It's unconstitutional... then again so is the patriot act.





what exactly is unconstitutional about the patriot act?


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Invisibledr_gonz

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    #14525418 - 05/28/11 08:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Obama renew's PATRIOT Act, why? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #14525433 - 05/28/11 08:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

my thoughts are that it doesnt matter because Obama authorized it to be
used to make his signature on the document, I've authorized others to
sign my checks and been authorized to sign checks for others, the autopen
is no different than that


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Re: Obama renew's PATRIOT Act, why? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14525471 - 05/28/11 09:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My mistake.  I took your posting of a picture of President Bush with the phrase "Miss Me Yet" as an endorsement.

I agree though that McCain was never meant to be president.  The GOP was perfectly resigned to have Obama take over since he shares the Bush Cheney policy so closely. (expanding the war on terror / continuing Bush tax cuts / re-signing Patriot Act) 


I feel that McCain knew he wasn't supposed to win that election and that is why Palin was his running mate.


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Invisibledr_gonz

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    #14525509 - 05/28/11 09:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Obama renew's PATRIOT Act, why? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #14525521 - 05/28/11 09:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Theres no reason to auto pen anything like this. Why change the way it has always been
done? I do not trust deez fuks as far as I can throw them.


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Re: Obama renew's PATRIOT Act, why? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14527167 - 05/28/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

anyone of use could be arrested and stripped of our rights at any moment!!!!!!!!!!!!


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