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CosmicJoke
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: Society]
#14473662 - 05/18/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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$60 Antec case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
Both were highly rated on newegg and also suggested by a friend who builds PCs.
The case is definitely sturdy, but lacks cable management... Some fairly simple mods with a dremmel tool and some edging trim would give you a much nicer case.
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: CosmicJoke]
#14473751 - 05/18/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i dont understand the point of the case at all..
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: imachavel]
#14473897 - 05/18/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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CosmicJoke
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: frith]
#14473919 - 05/18/11 03:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i dont understand the point of the case at all..
well, he obviously doesn't need it to get things up and running again... but if he prefers the new case, why not?
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imachavel
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: CosmicJoke]
#14473981 - 05/18/11 03:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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sure i guess. just hope he doesn't think it's necessary. heh.
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: thodub]
#14473989 - 05/18/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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you don't have a rating yet, so be friendly
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: imachavel]
#14474001 - 05/18/11 03:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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psh I plan to stay unrated
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imachavel
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: thodub]
#14474085 - 05/18/11 04:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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you can opt out of general ratings if you like, i almost have.
but my ratings bad or good are like a collection of comments from people i've met and spoken with. almost like a comment drop box at a rainbow gathering, which not only doesn't exist, but also on the shroomery you don't really meet people that you see on the internet.
none the less it's the closest thing i've found
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: imachavel]
#14474214 - 05/18/11 04:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I bought a new case because the HP one is a cramped piece of shit with sub-par air flow. It's as if it was designed specifically so that you cannot customize it. It didn't even have a space for internal hard drives; they were seemingly haphazardly screwed in where they could physically fit.
A new case will allow me to better customize my PC in the future, when I learn more about upgrading and more components eventually break. After all, I have had this PC since 2006 and replaced nothing up until this point.
For all I know, the mainboard went out with the PSU. If so, I have a new case to start fresh with. If not... well, I have a new case.
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: CosmicJoke]
#14474341 - 05/18/11 05:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i dont understand the point of the case at all..
well, he obviously doesn't need it to get things up and running again... but if he prefers the new case, why not?
i dont know.. personally, i wouldnt throw the cash into an old Pentium D machine like that. 
if the end goal is a new PC then let the case be the starting point instead of replacing/discarding the old stuff.. at least that way he would get a new machine and still be able to keep the old one for a test box/server/HTPC..
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: frith]
#14474471 - 05/18/11 05:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i dont know.. personally, i wouldnt throw the cash into an old Pentium D machine like that.
if the end goal is a new PC then let the case be the starting point instead of replacing/discarding the old stuff.. at least that way he would get a new machine and still be able to keep the old one for a test box/server/HTPC..
Or stick the old case in the attic should you want it around again.. I don't see it as throwing cash into an old machine, a good PSU and case are investments... they can be used for builds to come.
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: CosmicJoke]
#14474518 - 05/18/11 05:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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well in that case the new case is good, especially if he wants to install raid, he needs those spots for extra hard drives. i'd say you've learn a good bit in short time society.
however, did you say the motherboard went out with the power supply? are you buying a new one? take your time with buying new motherboards, make sure it can support the cpu and ram and video card and power supply and network card you have now. plus whatever ones you might want to buy in the future.
or you don't plan to use the ones you have now then definitely the ones you plan to buy in the future at the least. be careful and really really take your time, you might find a good one that supports quite a few good upgrades, but is way beyond your price range, you'll really want to look around for that.
and make sure it's something with a socket type that is 775 or higher, otherwise it won't be able to keep up with the new cpu's. tell you the truth, i'm not even sure socket 775 will be able to keep up with much of what they have now, but at least it's not dinosaur like 448 or what not.
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: imachavel]
#14474834 - 05/18/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't know if my motherboard still works. I don't have another PSU to test it out. So I'll have to see when the PSU get here. I'm told that if I get a new motherboard/cpu, I'll have to get a new OS (don't have the disc to XP) to install on a HD. Eh? I plan on doing this eventually anyway, but I'm simply getting tired of not having a computer at this point.
Indeed I learned a lot in this thread. Especially from seeing the pic of my own motherboard. 
I also have a GeForce 8800 GT my brother gave me to replace my 7300 LE. So now I can play some of the games that have been released after 1999.
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Dimi
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: Society]
#14474861 - 05/18/11 06:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, your hard drive copy of your OS is bios locked, you'll need a new copy.
That 8800 GT is a nice card, way better than my spare 6800
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: Society]
#14479211 - 05/19/11 03:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I built a pretty decent computer out of Newegg stuff. Before that it was a refurbished Dell with some extra stuff. Both were made to play games and stuff and both were cheaper than a playstation 3 or XBox (never got the claim that computers were more expensive than consoles for gaming- maybe for idiots who buy stuff the first week they're out, I dunno).
I would personally prefer to build my own if any of the parts were important to you or whatever, but otherwise the warranty, support, and so forth from prebuilts can make it easier. If you choose wisely you can get a good prebuilt that you can expand for anything you want- just be careful of the case being too physically small or the motherboard being crap, and be aware that often Dell refuses to continue active support of its products (won't update firmware and so forth to support additional things).
I've got a decent low middle end (but better than much of the crap sold) FSP 420 Watt (I believe) power supply if you want it. A few bucks for shipping and its yours. Its got sata connectors and one pcie 6 connector.
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: johnm214]
#14490182 - 05/21/11 03:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well, that concludes three weeks without a computer. 
I actually managed to correctly hook my 500W PSU up first try!!! Whoaaaa!
to me! Pretty amazing I was able to do it considering I just learned to whistle this year.
Now to transfer everything into my new case without evoking a nuclear holocaust...
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: Society]
#14491764 - 05/21/11 10:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice job man. For a lot of people, it's getting over the fear of frying your machine by opening the case and working it in.
Always try to avoid ESD (electro static discharge) by touching a large metal object, or better to use a ground bracelet. This will keep that nuclear disaster from happening.
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: Dimi]
#14492463 - 05/22/11 02:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Even scarier. I had a friend come over and help me put it into the new case.
For some reason though.... it rejected having more than 1GB of ram. We tried every configuration of the 2GB ram that came with the PC.... never worked. Wouldn't start.
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: Society]
#14492838 - 05/22/11 06:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is your older Motherboard right? What kind was it again? can we get the numbers off the RAM sticker or a pic of the RAM to see what kind it is?
BIOS's have a limit to the amount of memory that can occupy one slot. 1GB in this case, unless the RAM type isn't a supported speed, or the RAM is dead...
and remember that if you have RAM slots that are two different colors, you need a stick in each slot of that color.
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Re: Is building your own PC worth it? ... [Re: frith]
#14519637 - 05/27/11 07:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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frith said:
i dont know.. personally, i wouldnt throw the cash into an old Pentium D machine like that. 
Agreed. I built a computer a year ago and it cost me $600 AUD. I have since upgraded from Socket 775 to 1155 to step the CPU up from an E6500 to an I5-2400. It is hooked straight to my TV via HDMI through an ATI HD5670.
The warranty argument isn't relevant. Even if you built the machine, parts have warranty and newer technology is very reliable (in my experience).
All depends on what you want to do with it as to how powerful you want it. My opinion is overkill first and no worries later. I use mine as an HTPC mainly and surfing second. HTPC is the future...no messy discs floating around getting scratched.
Pre built machines are Turds more often than not. Lower end CPU's, 4gb of RAM running a dumbed down 32 bit version of Windows 7 in a pretty box. Bullshit OEM enhancement programs that clog up memory and bring your computer to a stop.
Windows 7 from PB FTW.
Media Browser for HTPC.


You really should look at replacing Motherboard and CPU in one hit...so much cleaner (if you can afford it).
P.S. - If you're into that sort of thing, building your own and setting up your software is awesome fun
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