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The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history * 6
    #14519444 - 05/27/11 06:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)



Tuition debt is now larger than credit card debt, what a way to start out in the real world..

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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: Asante]
    #14519512 - 05/27/11 06:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Posting so I can watch it later.


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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: Asante]
    #14519517 - 05/27/11 06:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Im in debt to the hospital (bet that doesnt happen where you live) but luckily I opted not to get credit cards or tuition loans.

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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14519610 - 05/27/11 07:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Im in debt to the hospital (bet that doesnt happen where you live) but luckily I opted not to get credit cards or tuition loans.




Yay for free health care :laugh:
Move to Canada!!
:smile:

And yeah tuition fucking sucks. I am in debt and gonna go into even more dept this fall :'(


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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14519735 - 05/27/11 08:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Anarchy is NOT the way to go.

community college, FTW

Edited by Buckthorn (05/27/11 01:56 PM)

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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: Buckthorn]
    #14519781 - 05/27/11 08:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Glad you posted this Wiccan.

I was kicked out of school for numerous cannabis violations (living in the East plus bad decisions) but I'm very glad I didn't continue with my "college career".

There are so many fucking retarded people in college it's a shame.  The same shit I saw in high school that I thought wouldn't exist in college was WIDELY practiced.  Grade buffering, tests being overly easy, teachers not really giving a god damn (although I will say that in my 3 short semesters I had some wonderfully amazing professors; I made sure to almost exclusively pick 5 star rated professors from ratemyprofessor.com though), and just a general lack of real student-based learning going on.

I felt like everyone had the idea that college was a big party and that's EXACTLY what it's become.


I learned so much more sitting on my computer reading shroomery posts, books, and being outside  over the last 3 years than I ever did from college. 

I will add that I went to highschool with no clear idea of what I wanted to do  with my life.  I now have a *very* clear idea of *what* I want to do and I know of a number of paths that I could take that would be quite amenable to completing my "goal(s)" here.


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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: Humility]
    #14519788 - 05/27/11 08:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I wanted to get all my partying behind me before i started college. I also wanted to figure out what I wanted to do.

Im still partying and still havent figured out what I want to do.

The way I see it life is a party

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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14519791 - 05/27/11 08:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The way I see it life is a party




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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14519825 - 05/27/11 08:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Some of what the video has to say is good. I don't like how he keeps implying that ALL of academia is crooked, though. The bankers are the problem, not the colleges.

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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: morrowasted]
    #14519870 - 05/27/11 08:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Interesting video, someone posted it a week ago or so and I watched the whole thing, definitely worth checking out.  College textbooks are a blatant total scam!  Colleges are businesses, and just like any other business they will want every dollar they can squeeze from your existance. 

In the video they do a segment where they had interviewed people who had 6 figure+ type jobs where a majority of them had stated that college education had nothing to do with with the job they had.  This is interesting, it didn't explain how they got these jobs.  I'm guessing its more who you know than what you know?

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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: Asante]
    #14519934 - 05/27/11 09:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Cool yeah I watched this a while back.  I already figure it out because I left school at 18 and went into work / saved and I'm currently better of than all of my friends who went to university.  Most of them can't get jobs and are still in debt.  I never thought of it as a conspiracy but I realised it was the case.


Also have you seen The American Dream yet Wiccan?

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14503817/page/1

I think you'll like it.  Its like money is debt but a cartoon with a bit of humour and a bit easier to understand.  :smile::thumbup:

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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: Rumblefishtwist]
    #14519939 - 05/27/11 09:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I did a year of college and realized it wasn't for me. It's definitely a harder road to go if you don't have a degree, but it's possible.

I've been self employed for most of my adult life. Right now I own a brick and mortar shop and am about to open a second company geared towards touring musicians.

It's doable. Just decide what you want to do and go out and do it to the best of your ability.

BTW, I am a HUGE fan of apprenticeships. Decide what you want to do and go get a job with someone that does that very well. Even offer to work for minimum wage until you get the skill set. I think it's the best way to learn.


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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: Rumblefishtwist]
    #14519948 - 05/27/11 09:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Interesting video, someone posted it a week ago or so and I watched the whole thing, definitely worth checking out.  College textbooks are a blatant total scam!  Colleges are businesses, and just like any other business they will want every dollar they can squeeze from your existance. 

In the video they do a segment where they had interviewed people who had 6 figure+ type jobs where a majority of them had stated that college education had nothing to do with with the job they had.  This is interesting, it didn't explain how they got these jobs.  I'm guessing its more who you know than what you know?



it's getting to be that way less and less, as who you know becomes less of a commodity and more a function of what you know

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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: nice1]
    #14519953 - 05/27/11 09:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

good video.

i already knew most of this though. our entire education system is geared towards making kids good test takers... college doesn't make anyone smarter. i hate college. i'm dropping out as soon as i can't afford it without borrowing.
i guess i'm just humoring my family.

i've only had a few good teachers. the only point in getting a full degree is to go to grad school so you can work on research projects at a university, cause that's the only place the money is in any particular field


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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: Buckthorn]
    #14520016 - 05/27/11 09:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Community colleges are hardly cheaper and I view it as even more of a scam because it seems like the dropout rate is even higher than a four year college. It sucks to see how the books can keep kids from taking the classes they want to take. My calculus book cost ~350 dollars. If I wanted to sell it it another year I couldn't because they already have a new edition.

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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: scoredon]
    #14520106 - 05/27/11 10:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I posted this and it got moved and ridiculed.

Glad you re-posted.

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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14520151 - 05/27/11 10:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Awesome video

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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: unam sanctum]
    #14520210 - 05/27/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Education, public, private, even high school is what you make of it.
College isn't for everyone, but trying it is the only way to find out.
There are ways to avoid incurring stupid amounts of debt getting an education; just like everything else in life.
An education is something you have for thew rest of your life.
The title of this thread is a fucking joke.


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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: Deekay] * 2
    #14520226 - 05/27/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Koala College, Lesson 1:  Watch video before speaking, so as not to sound like arse.

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Re: The College Conspiracy - it's the biggest fraud in US history [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14520228 - 05/27/11 10:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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MisterMuscaria said:
I wanted to get all my partying behind me before i started college.
The way I see it life is a party




Yeah man I left all my partying behind me before college. I dont drink anymore, dont do any "hard" drugs, only trip every few months, cut back on weed to just once or twice a day as an enhancement to personal reading.

College is so fun in my opinion , I love being around the professors and having a gigantic library and being able to pick out the smart people in all my classes and becoming friends with them and what not.
Im going to Community college right now, gunna go for another 2 years. Then once all the classes I could of cmpleted in a CC are done, im going to transfer and hopefully get a shitton of financial aid.

I want to go into physics.. so there really is no way around college.

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