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LatelySeeingDemons
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First Grow, Thanks to all of you guys!
#14518155 - 05/26/11 10:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ive got a grow going with a maintained 81 temp TiT incubation system. 3 jars GC and 3 jars B+ those are 1 pint jars. i have a half pint and another pint just noc'd up with more GC. Ill be making posts soon and putting up pics of my fruiting chamber, and my incubation chamber. Its really a nifty layout! Glad to be in the community will show pics soon!
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Careful with incubators... 81F is not necessary, and the risk because of thermophilic contaminates is potentially not worth it. Also, you have to change out the water weekly or it gets all gross.
anywhere from 65-75F is great!
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Re: First Grow, Thanks to all of you guys! [Re: Primal Call]
#14518243 - 05/26/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Okay dokay! Ill try to go ahead and change the water again soon. I also have a water pump going , and i have this stuff called Amquel Plus, anyone fond of this??? it supposedly helps with having to change water too frequently and among other factors. Its very sterile and sealed in there ,ive lined it double with sterilized plastic, yet with proper ventilation. Ill be running an old school cool mist(the same exact model from the Marthas Tek post on the site, THE SAME model) and a Holmes Hm2060 cool mist soon, when my perlite chamber is built(perlite chamber lol).I also have a nifty hepa air case built and sealed well with three air pumps (one dual output, two single output) and i have air stones galore from my days of running a salt water tank.
(also, im getting 12 more 1/2 pint jars to use the rest of my GC)
Edited by LatelySeeingDemons (05/26/11 10:36 PM)
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Primal Call
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to be sure we're on the same page, I'm voting you get rid of the incubator altogether unless your room temperature is below 60F.
As far as what you are describing, you may as well be speaking Vietnamese for all that I'm understanding... I'm a keep it simple kinda guy. SGFCs(perlite chamber?) properly built shouldn't need all the extra jazz, but again, I don't even know what you are talking about. I'm guessing humidifiers and air pumps? 
anyway, good luck with it!
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Re: First Grow, Thanks to all of you guys! [Re: Primal Call]
#14518485 - 05/26/11 11:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i was aiming to maintain a very constant 80 to 81 degrees because of what i have read over a course of time now.i wanted it to be VERY constant . Also , was gonna ask, what should my humidity be at during incubation ? I want to exact it.
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suit yourself 
humidity doesn't matter. Just be sure your lids have 2-4 small holes for gas exchange (GE).
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Gotcha. Since my room gets hot should i set my incubator temp to 75F? Ive become one with that thing and its easy for me to keep a constant upper tub temp now. Mine have microtape over the lids, so i might be okay.Thank you so much for the help!
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Especially since your room gets hot you should set your incubator to Peace Out-Fahrenheit.
I can't recommend a temperature for it when I think you should ditch it...
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Just yanked it out . Ima follow your advice. Im about to post some pics of some growths, 1 from a B+ jar and one from a GC jar.
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Think these are contams? or Myc growth?
 B+
 B+#2
 GC
 GC#2
Edited by LatelySeeingDemons (05/31/11 11:51 AM)
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Primal Call
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Quote:
LatelySeeingDemons said: Just yanked it out . Ima follow your advice. Im about to post some pics of some growths, 1 from a B+ jar and one from a GC jar.

I had one set up when I first started also. Everyone told me to get rid of it except one person, but she said she only needed it during the coldest winter months.
If you use the "flower setting" (macro mode) on your camera (if you have it), you should get some clearer pictures. Also, the flash makes for difficult viewing.
Looking good from what I can see though 
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i just pulled my water pump from my lower temp and it looked like two medium sized creepy crawlies were stuck in the fan of the pump ............very odd seeing as the water was pure and it was changed and treated with AmQuel Plus. Ever heard of that stuff? if so can you give me the skinny on it???
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never even heard of it... 
yeah... bugs in there already is not a good sign.
move your jars outta there... a head-high shelf with whatever temperatures you've got in that room is fine. 70-75F is perfect
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LatelySeeingDemons
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word, im already on top of sterilizing it. And i got better pics, one sec, brb
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Cob? or Myc??? i cross my fingers for myc...
Also, is it bad to spray disinfectant near your incubation chamber?? or around it? I have some that leaves a little of a lingering smell.
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If it is cobweb, it will be covering the entire jar within 1-2 days.
I'm thinking they are fine... put them on the shelf and leave them be for at least a week before you peak again! This is good patience training , and while you wait you can read up on all the stuff you will be doing after they are ready.
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Re: First Grow, Thanks to all of you guys! [Re: Primal Call]
#14518792 - 05/27/11 12:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ive gotta go get my 1/2 pint jars tomorrow and make my sub. Im using the verm 2 BRF 1 and Water 1 formula. Ive got my own personal martha setup up my sleeve . Its a combination of things, but from what i know, its hard to over-do humidity...or am i mislead??!?!?!
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BTW, these jars that are showing growth were noc'd on May 11th.....theyve been there for a LONG time with little checking (just for gas exchange)and constant temperature. So hopefully they are just late bloomers. Ive read so many contradictions throughout this forum and shroomtalk and others. And was told to always incubate at 86 or below. But i can tel you know your shit.
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I'm not familiar with martha's, but for humidity, the ideal is hypothetically 99% with plenty of FAE to draw moisture out of the substrate/cakes. Check out the cubensis pinning strategy/troubleshooting post in my signature... you might find it useful.
If I'm not mistaken, those pictures above are BRF/Verm right? If so, after colonization is done, wait 3-7 additional days (this is considered the consolidation period), then you'll want to rinse them, dunk for 24 hours, then roll in dry verm and put them in the fruiting area.
If you want to spawn them to a substrate and fruit from trays, mini monotub, or a standard monotub, you'll want to mix them into a prepared, pasteurized substrate of poo/coir/verm/etc, not add them to more BRF/Verm.
86F is way too risky... you might be able to get away with it, sure, but contaminates thrive at higher temperatures and are somewhat thwarted at lower ones. It just makes sense to have them take longer because of the colder storing temperatures where the only cost is time and patience.
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Re: First Grow, Thanks to all of you guys! [Re: Primal Call]
#14518845 - 05/27/11 12:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah but ive read where ppl have said they show signs of growth in 2 to 4 days. and that if u dont show signs within two weeks blah blah blah blah...... I dunno, but i rlly do appreciate you helping, and ive got a little FAE system in mind using a small dual window unite, my hepa air filter box(pumping air through my tub with the cakes to keep constant air flow, and it will be enclosed in a plastic wrapped closet and sealed. Thanks for the help man, ill be posting more and look forward to rooting into this community!
And yeah, these are Verm BRF cakes. I just didnt think it would take this long to show growth. but im happy to see them. Ill be a patient grasshoppa!
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Edited by LatelySeeingDemons (05/27/11 12:31 AM)
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