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sum0



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NZ Agaricus ID?
#14517526 - 05/26/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey Shroomers, Can I please get an ID on this?


Habitat: Grass with dead pine needles
Stem : White and like an inch wide
Cap : White with brown 'flakes?'
Spore : none, son
Location : Auckland, NZ
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elprawn
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Re: NZ Agaricus ID? [Re: sum0]
#14517534 - 05/26/11 08:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice! Never seen Agarici quite so bunched as that. Not sure which one it is.
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sum0



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Re: NZ Agaricus ID? [Re: elprawn]
#14517543 - 05/26/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sweet, thanks for posting Elprawn!
You Da man!
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groople
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Re: NZ Agaricus ID? [Re: elprawn]
#14517553 - 05/26/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I agree that it's an agaricus. I never ID them to species. If it does not smell objectionable and does not yellow, it is edible. I usually spray a little bit of a base on a fragment of them to make sure that does not turn it yellow - KOH, NaOH, or a common household base (like any cleaner with ammonia) would all work. (Some inedible agaricus only turn yellow easily in the presence of a base.)
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elprawn
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Re: NZ Agaricus ID? [Re: groople]
#14517569 - 05/26/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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groople said: I agree that it's an agaricus. I never ID them to species. If it does not smell objectionable and does not yellow, it is edible. I usually spray a little bit of a base on a fragment of them to make sure that does not turn it yellow - KOH, NaOH, or a common household base (like any cleaner with ammonia) would all work. (Some inedible agaricus only turn yellow easily in the presence of a base.)
Whether it yellows or not is irrelevant. If it doesn't smell like poster paint or watercolour paint or fountain pen ink or however you wish to describe that smell, it's edible.
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mountainplayer
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Re: NZ Agaricus ID? [Re: sum0]
#14517578 - 05/26/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks like some of those are still in the button stage (intact veil). Can you post a pic of one of the unopened buttons sliced lenghtwise? Might help some of the smarter members here.
I've only found an eaten wild agaricus campestris, so I'm just thinking on my feet here. The genus is way tough to characterize down to species, at least for the likes of me.
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psylosymonreturns
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cool find sum0!! you should take a spore print . if its brown maybe A bisporus, if its white Cholorphylum rachodes. not big on NZ species tho so i am probably way off.
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elprawn
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Quote:
psylosymonreturns said: cool find sum0!! you should take a spore print . if its brown maybe A bisporus, if its white Cholorphylum rachodes. not big on NZ species tho so i am probably way off. 
No, it's an Agaricus.
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sum0



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Re: NZ Agaricus ID? [Re: elprawn]
#14517643 - 05/26/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks everyone, Hey can anyone have a shot at ID'ing this? :P
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Ieponumos
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Re: NZ Agaricus ID? [Re: elprawn]
#14517664 - 05/26/11 08:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
sum0 said: Hey Shroomers, Can I please get an ID on this?


Habitat: Grass with dead pine needles
Stem : White and like an inch wide
Cap : White with brown 'flakes?'
Spore : none, son
Location : Auckland, NZ
Perhaps something similar to Agaricus impudicus?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agaricus_impudicus
Said to be from NZ and it looks like it has a cespitose habit from the pic on the wiki page.
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sum0 said: Thanks everyone, Hey can anyone have a shot at ID'ing this? :P

I'm guessing Hemimycena sp.
EDIT: The habitat also seems to match for A. impudicus
Edited by Ieponumos (05/26/11 08:59 PM)
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elprawn
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Re: NZ Agaricus ID? [Re: sum0]
#14517673 - 05/26/11 08:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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sum0 said: Thanks everyone, Hey can anyone have a shot at ID'ing this? :P

That's awesome! Maybe a tiny little Hygrocybe?
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elprawn
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Re: NZ Agaricus ID? [Re: Ieponumos]
#14517683 - 05/26/11 08:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ieponumos said: Perhaps something similar to Agaricus impudicus?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agaricus_impudicus
Said to be from NZ and it looks like it has a cespitose habit from the pic on the wiki page.
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sum0 said: Thanks everyone, Hey can anyone have a shot at ID'ing this? :P

I'm guessing Hemimycena sp.
Ah, yeah, actually, I think you're right there.
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groople
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Re: NZ Agaricus ID? [Re: elprawn]
#14519165 - 05/27/11 02:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Whether it yellows or not is irrelevant. If it doesn't smell like poster paint or watercolour paint or fountain pen ink or however you wish to describe that smell, it's edible.
Honestly, I just have problems smelling good agaricus from bad agaricus. Section Xanthodermati is lutescent but in my area often latently so, and many times I can't tell via smell alone, so lutescence is a valuable characteristic for me. You are right that section Arvenses is lutescent and edible, but they smell actively delicious enough that I can recognize 'em. I should have clarified more in my original post, but it slipped my mind.
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The Thinker

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Re: NZ Agaricus ID? [Re: sum0]
#14519645 - 05/27/11 07:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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sum0 said: Thanks everyone, Hey can anyone have a shot at ID'ing this? :P

Cruentomycena viscidocruenta
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Lord Mayonnaise


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They're hard to pull the out of the substrate as their stems are super viscid. Your fingers end up slipping and all you end up with is the cap.
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