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Why Don't Fully Loaded Magazines Fit into Pistol
#14515723 - 05/26/11 02:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just got some 10 round magazines since I'm moving to California. I wanted to do things legitimately. I tried loading the mags and fit all 10 bullets. However, when I tried to attach the magazines, they would not stay, and I was able to pull them out without even having to press the release.
These are 10 round magazines for a Glock 22
Any idea why this happens?
They fit ok with just 9 rounds in the clip, but they won't lock in place when there are 10 rounds in the clip. These mags are factory new, specifically for a Glock 22
Edited by insipidtoast (05/26/11 02:42 PM)
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Re: Why Don't Fully Loaded Magazines Fit into Pistol [Re: insipidtoast]
#14569326 - 06/06/11 01:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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No idea, I never fully load magazines anyways
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ChuangTzu
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Re: Why Don't Fully Loaded Magazines Fit into Pistol [Re: insipidtoast]
#14569933 - 06/06/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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You may need to hit the bottom of the mag pretty hard to seat it.
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Re: Why Don't Fully Loaded Magazines Fit into Pistol [Re: KillerPicklez]
#14576542 - 06/07/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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KillerPicklez said: No idea, I never fully load magazines anyways
Do you believe you're preserving the life of the magazine by doing this or is it for some other reason?
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Re: Why Don't Fully Loaded Magazines Fit into Pistol [Re: SpiritualSnorkel]
#14576631 - 06/07/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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yep. puts less strain on the spring
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Re: Why Don't Fully Loaded Magazines Fit into Pistol [Re: KillerPicklez]
#14577252 - 06/07/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Springs are cheap. Use 'em, and replace 'em often.
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Re: Why Don't Fully Loaded Magazines Fit into Pistol [Re: ChuangTzu]
#14577272 - 06/07/11 10:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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KillerPicklez said: yep. puts less strain on the spring
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ChuangTzu said: Springs are cheap. Use 'em, and replace 'em often.
springs ARE cheap
and you never know when you need that extra two or three shots to drop an enemy
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Re: Why Don't Fully Loaded Magazines Fit into Pistol [Re: LayinUp]
#14577761 - 06/08/11 12:47 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's strange, I have no problems with any auto-loaders not accepting fully loaded mags (especially Glocks). The only one I really have a problem with is my cheapo Phoenix Arms .22 cause you got to press down the magazine release to to put the magazine back in, but it still excepts full clips no problem. The only thing I can think of is that the mags are defective. Try taking them back to the gun shop you got them from and explain the problem (and if possible show them), and see if they'll replace them. If not try sending them into Glock with a letter explaining the situation and I'm sure they'll have no problem sending your a couple replacements. Gun manufacturers are generally have pretty good return/replacement policies.
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Re: Why Don't Fully Loaded Magazines Fit into Pistol [Re: Hellboy]
#14579352 - 06/08/11 11:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hellboy said: That's strange, I have no problems with any auto-loaders not accepting fully loaded mags (especially Glocks). The only one I really have a problem with is my cheapo Phoenix Arms .22 cause you got to press down the magazine release to to put the magazine back in, but it still excepts full clips no problem. The only thing I can think of is that the mags are defective. Try taking them back to the gun shop you got them from and explain the problem (and if possible show them), and see if they'll replace them. If not try sending them into Glock with a letter explaining the situation and I'm sure they'll have no problem sending your a couple replacements. Gun manufacturers are generally have pretty good return/replacement policies.
Actually, it's pretty common for the last round to be difficult to load into the magazine and for fully loaded magazines to be difficult to lock into the gun's magazine well--especially with new magazines. You just need to give them a good jab with the heel of your hand to seat them fully. It's because the spring force increases as it compresses so for each cartridge you put into the magazine, the force to push down the stack of bullets as you put the mag into the magwell increases. As the mag spring wears down a bit, it becomes easier. At least you know you have good, solid mag springs when it's difficult to lock them in like that.
As an aside, it's good practice to give all of your magazines a good rap with the heel of your hand to seat them anyway, even if they're easy to seat. That way you're in the habit of doing so in an emergency when you might try to reload to fast or to clumsily to seat the mag all the way by just sliding it in.
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Re: Why Don't Fully Loaded Magazines Fit into Pistol [Re: KillerPicklez]
#14579743 - 06/08/11 01:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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KillerPicklez said: yep. puts less strain on the spring
It's the repeated compression/decompression, or over-compression of a mag spring beyond capacity which facilitates wear.
Some people insist on either A. storing all mags unloaded, B. storing mags underloaded by 2-3 rounds their capacity, or C. cycling/"purging" old rounds every few weeks/months and replacing with new rounds. This has more to do with bullet set-back (which I've never experienced first-hand, repeatedly chambering Hornady Critical Defense 9mm) C. in particular tends to get pretty pricey, especially if you're buying defensive JHP ammunition.
I can't see the sense in these superstitious practices, as they're contradictory to so many things a pistol is used for in terms of home defense and concealed carry. Any gun worth it's salt, especially modern pistols made of decent materials, should be able to withstand having a mag loaded to full capacity (and stored that way for prolonged periods of time, if needed). If it can't, it's not a gun I'd consider worth having.
If you found a fully loaded 1911 from World War II, loaded for 60+ odd years, would you really have the confidence to rack the slide, put it to your head and pull the trigger on the grounds that after so much time the mag spring must be so worn out and useless, it couldn't possibly cycle a round?
Edited by SpiritualSnorkel (06/08/11 04:28 PM)
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Re: Why Don't Fully Loaded Magazines Fit into Pistol [Re: SpiritualSnorkel]
#14581446 - 06/08/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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nope, but my buddys glock misfired in the house we were living in because he didnt properly replace the spring. nearly killed him since he sleeps with it on his bed stand. so yes, I am a bit superstitious now
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Re: Why Don't Fully Loaded Magazines Fit into Pistol [Re: KillerPicklez]
#14581512 - 06/08/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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KillerPicklez said: nope, but my buddys glock misfired in the house we were living in because he didnt properly replace the spring. nearly killed him since he sleeps with it on his bed stand. so yes, I am a bit superstitious now
Misfire or negligent discharge?
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Re: Why Don't Fully Loaded Magazines Fit into Pistol [Re: KillerPicklez]
#14581542 - 06/08/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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KillerPicklez said: nope, but my buddys glock misfired in the house we were living in because he didnt properly replace the spring. nearly killed him since he sleeps with it on his bed stand. so yes, I am a bit superstitious now
How do you end up having a misfire due to an improperly installed mag spring?
How do you even improperly install a mag spring?
Sounds like the guy did something stupid and blamed the gun.
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Re: Why Don't Fully Loaded Magazines Fit into Pistol [Re: SpiritualSnorkel]
#14581915 - 06/08/11 09:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I dont know a lick about glocks, but apparently if you put in a shorter spring, it causes the gun to fire faster. I dont know if that makes sense or not, but thats "why" he did it. No it misfired in the middle of the night when everyone was sleeping.
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Re: Why Don't Fully Loaded Magazines Fit into Pistol [Re: KillerPicklez]
#14585243 - 06/09/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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KillerPicklez said: I dont know a lick about glocks, but apparently if you put in a shorter spring, it causes the gun to fire faster. I dont know if that makes sense or not, but thats "why" he did it. No it misfired in the middle of the night when everyone was sleeping.
There is no way that any modification of the magazine spring, what-so-ever, will cause any gun to fire on its own.
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Sounds like the guy did something stupid and blamed the gun.
^^^This.
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