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OfflineKickleM
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    #14506290 - 05/24/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Should we have boundaries? Often times spirituality is about breaking down what restricts allowing more space to move in. But are there times when boundaries are necessary?


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Re: boundaries [Re: Kickle]
    #14506591 - 05/24/11 08:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I can think of two examples off the top of my head:

1) restrictions on food intake. Eating 5 chocolate chip cookies in one setting isn't good for anyone, even if it tastes great.

2) workplace boundaries. Whether it be dress code, behavior, etc., an environment conducive to getting a job done needs limits to work within, I'm just not the one to say one specific thing because I think its dependent upon the workplace. (no eating at your desk... but maybe its ok if you work in a cubicle where others won't be bothered)


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Re: boundaries [Re: Penelope_Tree]
    #14507053 - 05/24/11 09:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If we didn't have boundaries that seperate us from animals we would get killed by lions and such


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Re: boundaries [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #14507314 - 05/24/11 10:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"And so, the king had no choice but to have Daniel thrown into the lions’ den. The King said to Daniel, “May the God whom you serve so faithfully save you!”

And then the king’s men grabbed Daniel and threw him into a pit filled with pacing, roaring, hot-breathed lions.

They rolled a stone over the mouth of the den, and the King sealed it with his royal seal, so that no one could move the stone and rescue Daniel.

That night, the king could not sleep at all.

The first thing the next morning, just as the sun was beginning to rise, the king ran to the lions’ den.

He shouted out, “Daniel! servant of the living God! Was the God you serve so faithfully able to save you from the lions’ jaws?

“Daniel...?”

“May your majesty live forever!” Daniel called from inside the lions’ den. “God sent his angel to shut the lions mouths all through the night. God has saved me so that you will know that I am innocent, and I have served you faithfully!”

The king was so happy. Immediately he ordered his servants to pull Daniel from the lions’ den. There wasn’t even a scratch on him. Everyone saw that Daniel had trusted God, and God had saved him."


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Re: boundaries [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #14507337 - 05/24/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

At the moment, boundaries of our physical world definitely do apply; in the higher realms i'm not sure but if there are I haven't ran into them yet  :shrug:


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Re: boundaries [Re: Kickle]
    #14507361 - 05/24/11 10:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Kickle said:
Should we have boundaries? Often times spirituality is about breaking down what restricts allowing more space to move in. But are there times when boundaries are necessary?




Yes we should as long as we are in physical bodies.
Boundaries are there for our survival.
Physical and spiritual boundaries keep what we value protected.
Mental boundaries are uneccessary
, but we need boundaries in other areas.


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Re: boundaries [Re: don_vedo]
    #14507427 - 05/24/11 10:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

For lack of a better word, discipline is all I can think of but that word is so broad. If a person transcends the habits that no longer serve them a purpose (negative actions, poisonous foods, negative thoughts, laziness, fear, etc.) then they no longer play a part in that paradigm, so instead of setting a boundary, they just don't go there.

On the other hand, like stated above, the human body does have certain limits but I've seen quite a bit of those limits transcended using the Spirit, which is limitless. :strokebeard:

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Re: boundaries [Re: Kickle]
    #14507680 - 05/24/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You have to know when to say No, yea know? I think the idea is to remove negative boundaries while implementing ones that support freewill and growth.

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Re: boundaries [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #14508188 - 05/25/11 02:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Language and belief systems seem to be necessary boundaries in the human condition.


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Re: boundaries [Re: Kickle]
    #14508478 - 05/25/11 05:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Should we have boundaries? Often times spirituality is about breaking down what restricts allowing more space to move in. But are there times when boundaries are necessary?




Of course some boundaries are necessary, otherwise they wouldn't exist in the first place.

Some might say that boundaries do not really exist though, and i would agree with both.

Focus on the boundless (your Self) & all the issues/contradictions get resolved as focusing on the boundless your mind will be as open as it can be at that time, and that's all necessary, there's no knowing when to have boundaires or when to be boundless, just be the boundlessness that you truly are & everything will arrange itself accordingly


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Re: boundaries [Re: MeowMix96]
    #14511365 - 05/25/11 06:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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MeowMix96 said:
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Kickle said:
Should we have boundaries? Often times spirituality is about breaking down what restricts allowing more space to move in. But are there times when boundaries are necessary?




Yes we should as long as we are in physical bodies.
Boundaries are there for our survival.
Physical and spiritual boundaries keep what we value protected.
Mental boundaries are uneccessary
, but we need boundaries in other areas.




What makes our survival so important?


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Re: boundaries [Re: Kickle]
    #14511376 - 05/25/11 06:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)


Of course some boundaries are necessary, otherwise they wouldn't exist in the first place.


Now there's some good ole fashioned trust shining through! :heart:


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Re: boundaries [Re: Kickle]
    #14514107 - 05/26/11 08:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Kickle said:
Should we have boundaries? Often times spirituality is about breaking down what restricts allowing more space to move in. But are there times when boundaries are necessary?




Yes we should as long as we are in physical bodies.
Boundaries are there for our survival.
Physical and spiritual boundaries keep what we value protected.
Mental boundaries are uneccessary
, but we need boundaries in other areas.




What makes our survival so important?




What makes your survival so important? Mine has to do with my Family, and my friends, and the Woman I Love, and her Son that I Love as my own.. You may or maynot be humanitarian, but this alone gives me Cause.


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Re: boundaries [Re: Kickle]
    #14514858 - 05/26/11 11:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Kickle said:
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MeowMix96 said:
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Kickle said:
Should we have boundaries? Often times spirituality is about breaking down what restricts allowing more space to move in. But are there times when boundaries are necessary?




Yes we should as long as we are in physical bodies.
Boundaries are there for our survival.
Physical and spiritual boundaries keep what we value protected.
Mental boundaries are uneccessary
, but we need boundaries in other areas.




What makes our survival so important?




Survival isn't really important in the big picture, but I like being alive and relatively sane sometimes. Ya know... it's kinda nice.
Really your survival should be important to you... if no one else.


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Re: boundaries [Re: MeowMix96]
    #14514904 - 05/26/11 12:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Really your survival should be important to you... if no one else.

:confused:
Why should it be important to me? I know I'm an impermanent thing and that no matter how much importance I give to survival it cannot succeed in the end. That said, I like being alive. I just try not to give it any more importance than I do decay and loss of vitality because I am that too.

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Re: boundaries [Re: Kickle]
    #14514965 - 05/26/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Kickle said:
Really your survival should be important to you... if no one else.

:confused:
Why should it be important to me? I know I'm an impermanent thing and that no matter how much importance I give to survival it cannot succeed in the end.




Why eat? Your not going to succeed with eating.
You are going to be hungry again.
Nothing succeeds in the end. Life is a never ending series of fixes.
Yet we do it anyways. I sometimes enjoy my fixes.
The little projects that I do to occupy the time until I can die and do it all again. Every being on this planet is going to die, more are going to be born and then they will die too.
It is the amazing way of this planet.
Nothing is permenant except for the soul.
I guess the only thing I can say is that survival add's to your soul's experiences.


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Re: boundaries [Re: Kickle]
    #14514980 - 05/26/11 12:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I am Excited to rot and decay! :o
I thinks it's going to be fricken amazing to grow old, and who knows how long we will live with the way technology, health, and spirituality are advancing! :laugh::D I'd like to live as Long as I could, so as to spend as much time as I can with the things that I love (People Inparticular!) I mean, it spend forever getting to this place, and I really really like it, so why not spend some time here ;D

My survival shouldn't be important to me.. My survival just is or inst.. XD It's important because I Care, and I Like it... :o

The question is, do you Care? And enough so it is important to you? ^^


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Re: boundaries [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #14515049 - 05/26/11 12:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, I place importance on surviving. But I'd much rather it wasn't there. I find it very inhibiting. I actively try to place that importance on living rather than on staying off death. Being afraid to take a leap just because you might get hurt is very inhibiting.


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Re: boundaries [Re: MeowMix96]
    #14515051 - 05/26/11 12:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I just like to go about it one moment at a time, enjoying what that moment has to offer. The world is a beautiful place and all that is in it is perfect in their own regard. We all are the singularity of our own universe. To worry about impermanence and the limits and boundaries of life is to limit yourself from your true nature and the infinite nature of the universe we live in.

Being that this thread is in the spirituality section of the forum I think it is safe to say that most if not all of us believe in a life after death; if that is what is to come then talk of impermanence and the ability to survive is of no matter. Life is based on boundaries but to what degree? If the boundaries of this life are crossed then does that in turn lay the boundaries for the life after this? To me life is lived in a giant fractal full of never ending possibilities, to try and understand the whole is impossible; living in the whole however is totally possible and it is when you can just live and enjoy the moment do you care not of the boundaries that exist and just enjoy what is laid before you.


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Re: boundaries [Re: don_vedo]
    #14515082 - 05/26/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I agree. Letting it happen is as good as it gets. But honestly, while there is a part that always allows it to happen (because it's powerless not to) there is a lot of mental stirring that exists in opposition. I'd be a big fat liar to say there wasn't. So even though my mind may say at times, "let it be", there's lots of other times that it says "change it to..."


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