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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Poison Drink]
    #14492861 - 05/22/11 06:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

very bitter i must add :lol:


i found someones garden with at least 20 differant types of coleus. Only used the type with red in the midle and green on the outsides. Just like the one in the video, but much smaller.


What are all* the chemicals and alk's in coleus?


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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Locky]
    #14493011 - 05/22/11 08:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I read that 70 leaves is the active minimum...but who knows.  With that number of leaves I think that a tea would be the easiest way to consume it.  I'm surprised that with this group we don't have an answer to active or not.  A number of us should try it soon.  I probably have about 70+ leaves.  Super market variety.  Gonna have to give it a go soon.


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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: EthnoHorter]
    #14493015 - 05/22/11 08:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Also, have you guys seen the gigantium variety?  Leaves are about 5-8 inches diameter.  Imagine if they were active?!


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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: EthnoHorter]
    #14493097 - 05/22/11 08:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I read that 70 leaves is the active minimum...but who knows.  With that number of leaves I think that a tea would be the easiest way to consume it.





Eating 70 leaves, that's no longer serious! :shocked:

And who knows if the alkoloids will dissolve in water?

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Poison Drink]
    #14493214 - 05/22/11 09:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

2 weeks after planting the seeds ^_^.

Your entire house is a greenhouse >_>. :grin:
It becomes needed when you live in a cold damn climate :nonono:

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: RourkeAnderson]
    #14514020 - 05/26/11 07:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Those leaves are actually quite tasty :wink: but eating didn't worked for me. Smoking did. Fresh leaves dried on the plate and then smoked gave me a very mild marijuana-like buzz. Well... maybe it was even closer in sensations to leonorus (wild dagga) flowers. I've tried many different plants with much higher hope for psychoactivity that didn't worked at all, so I carelessly rule out the placebo effect.

Now, some medicines are effective for some and not for others. Like zolpidem which gives me intense intoxication but others only go to sleep without any interesting effects. From other things salvia splendens is certainly active but Daniel Siebert fiercely opposes such claims.

Many factors can contribute to the psychoactivity of some plants, like lightning, temperature, UV radiance, water and many more.

Smoking coleus did more for me then sinicuichi for which I had very high hopes and many failed attempts with very concentrated extracts. Zero, null, none.


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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Kras]
    #14514354 - 05/26/11 09:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm, I read this on erowid:

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No one is exactly sure what gives coleus its psychoactive kick, but we do know that only fresh leaves will work. Dried leaves have virtually no effect.




And another question for the TS: Did you place the seeds in direct sunlight? I just sprinkled the seeds on top of the soil, and put a very small layer of soil on top of them. Then I watered them and placed them in indirect sunlight. Since I'm not sure if they can handle direct sunlight.

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Smoking coleus did more for me then sinicuichi for which I had very high hopes and many failed attempts with very concentrated extracts. Zero, null, none.




Hmm I sowed Coleus and Sinicuichi seeds at the same time, hehe! I was actually more curious about the Sinicuichi, but I won't get too exited now..

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Poison Drink]
    #14514568 - 05/26/11 10:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The seeds need light to germinate, it was all done indoors under fluoros. If you were planting them outdoors then I'd suggest a shady spot, since even in shade the brightness will be fine. Covering the seeds with soil will lower the germ rate by a good amount. You can usually look forward to a 90%-ish germ if they are sown on the top layer, and 30-50% when mixed into the dirt.

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: RourkeAnderson]
    #14514723 - 05/26/11 11:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

thanks! I read you should cover the seeds with some soil, so that's what I did. But I don't want a lot of Coleus plants, one or two is enough for me. I don't think the plant is very interesting to use as a psychoactive and I need to save space for other, more interesting plants! :grin:

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Poison Drink]
    #14514800 - 05/26/11 11:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Makes good sense ^_^. In that case you'll get just the perfect number of plants then =D. You'd probably need a basement full of them to be able to do any worthwhile mass alkaloid extractions or fun stuff, so I would imagine that they would be best suited as small ornamentals for the majority of entheo growers.

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: RourkeAnderson]
    #14560592 - 06/04/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: RourkeAnderson]
    #14560620 - 06/04/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

This sounds really interesting! Definitely can't wait to hear if they are active or not.


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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #14560684 - 06/04/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Here are my Bonsai Coleus,they just look psychoactive:jointsmile:






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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: KBG1977]
    #14561064 - 06/04/11 05:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

This is very interesting! And KBG nice grows, they all look so pretty. :smile2:


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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Distorted Vision]
    #14561145 - 06/04/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Heck, coleus' use might be to eat mushrooms and just stare at it to potentiate the experience :lmafo:


As a side note, the plants have normalized growth now, the NZ strain and the Generic ones are both on their 3rd sets of true leaves. SOON MY PRETTIES, SOON.

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: RourkeAnderson]
    #14561215 - 06/04/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

hehe,Thanks guys,oh and they do glow psychedelic under a Black light:mushroom2:

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: KBG1977]
    #14561253 - 06/04/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

haha neat KBG!
Rourke I'm pretty excited about this, my mind is twisted when I hear all these conflicting experiances.

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Distorted Vision]
    #14563653 - 06/05/11 08:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I smoked a cigarette of dried leaves once and got nothing.  :2cents:

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Connoisseur]
    #14564246 - 06/05/11 11:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I smoked a cigarette of dried leaves once and got nothing.  :2cents:



From my understanding smoking the leaves has no effect. I heard you have to pick around 100-200 average sized leaves and make a tea or quid.

Also has to be Coleus Blumei


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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: RourkeAnderson]
    #14564909 - 06/05/11 02:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have made tea from about 100 fresh leaves of a golden variety of coleus. The tea turned red(no red leaves). My vision changed and it looked like there were red splotches on everything. Like when you look at a bright light then look away and you see blue splotches but red.

Other than that I felt sort of dreamy like with mugwort but that may have been placebo.
I think there was something there. The plants came from a garden center and were completely green/yellow.Some sort mildly active cultivar I suppose.


This was almost 7 years ago so it is hard to remember clearly.

I have some really old C.blumei seeds from back when I kept a large garden. I never grew these seeds out but they came from a trusted user on here.  Maybe a few of them are still viable.

I will favorite this thread and come back to check and hopefully add updates.

Good luck everyone and thanks for making this thread RourkeAnderson.

EDIT:  I think I remember reading somewhere that the activity may be due to the levels of tannin. This may have been what I experienced since the tea turned red. This brings to light the possibility that there is an active coleus and inactive or there is no active variety and effects can be attributed to high levels of tannin.



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