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What is the best/most versatile instrument to create melodies with?
    #14513575 - 05/26/11 04:52 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

What is the best and most versatile instrument to come up with melodies besides the human voice?  Specifically to be played over guitar or piano.

I would think probably violin but am more interested in learning a wind instrument like a flute or clarinet, perhaps even something more exotic if it has more versatility for different scales or a wider range.  Not quite sure how a flute or clarinet works exactly either, do they include all chromatic notes within their range?

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Re: What is the best/most versatile instrument to create melodies with? [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14513585 - 05/26/11 04:57 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Flutes and violins can both work really well over for melodies over guitar or piano,
As far as versatility is concerned though, you can't get much more versatile than a guitar or piano... endless possibilities. cellos / double bass are cool.
I would say harp if you are a true badass.


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Re: What is the best/most versatile instrument to create melodies with? [Re: Shroomism]
    #14513599 - 05/26/11 05:05 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: What is the best/most versatile instrument to create melodies with? [Re: Individual]
    #14513614 - 05/26/11 05:19 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Piano

Are there instruments that do not play all of the notes in the chromatic scale?? I never thought about that. I guess brass instruments with three valves, that would make sense.

I'd think the flute and clarinet should definitely cover the chromatic scale but don't quote me, I'm a guitar player.


I still think piano is best for coming up with melodies. Or whatever keyboard...That's the beauty of it. It can be any sound you want. The keyboard is what's important. The layout is just so intuitive...
Just get a midi keyboard and play whatever instrument sound you want on your computer :-O


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Re: What is the best/most versatile instrument to create melodies with? [Re: drr]
    #14513621 - 05/26/11 05:26 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

keyboard and guitar are laid out the exact same in terms of notes/scale layout
In terms of versatility I think they are pretty much on the same ground - limitless.
guitar and keyboard together can make the most epic shit ever

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and where would we be without drums? lost in noodle land that's for sure.


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Re: What is the best/most versatile instrument to create melodies with? [Re: Shroomism]
    #14513626 - 05/26/11 05:28 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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keyboard and guitar are laid out the exact same in terms of notes/scale layout




Um, I don't know what kind of guitar you're playing, but mine is laid out nothing like a piano.

If you're talking about the scales themselves, well yes, they are the same, that is music theory for you, it applies to all instruments.


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Re: What is the best/most versatile instrument to create melodies with? [Re: drr]
    #14513638 - 05/26/11 05:40 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Imo bass, guitar, drums, piano. Perfection.


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Re: What is the best/most versatile instrument to create melodies with? [Re: drr]
    #14513646 - 05/26/11 05:47 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

They are fingered differently, but the notes that both instruments use to form the chords are exactly the same. This is certainly not the case with every instrument.
They may play completely differently but the note arrangement is the same. With piano you just have more options as you have 5 fingers per hand and with "classical" guitar you are limited to your picking hand for melodies.

but this is what I am talking about, they are the same note layout.



yes they are two completely different instruments but they share many similarities.
skills in piano can transfer over to easier access to guitar knowledge and vica versa.
this isn't a rule or anything, but it can often be the case


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Re: What is the best/most versatile instrument to create melodies with? [Re: Shroomism]
    #14513649 - 05/26/11 05:51 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I still have to completely disagree.

Chords are formed with the same notes on any instrument.

And besides. Think about it. You usually play triad chords on piano. Guitar you're playing six strings at a time. I don't understand what your logic is here! Duh the notes are the same! Yes it is that way on other instruments too, the only difference is that a lot of other instruments aren't polyphonic, you can't play chords on them, only one note at a time; ie wind and brass instruments.

Ever taken a music theory class?


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Re: What is the best/most versatile instrument to create melodies with? [Re: drr]
    #14513651 - 05/26/11 05:52 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I think this 'note layout' you speak of is just the chromatic scale. And besides, look at your own diagram. They are laid out completely different.

Piano is linear, one single line, that covers the chromatic scale over however many octaves.

Guitar is linear in six lines, and each covers the chromatic scale, overlapping in different places. Quite different. The similarity is in the chromatic scale, and that is standard for most western musical instruments.


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Re: What is the best/most versatile instrument to create melodies with? [Re: drr]
    #14513921 - 05/26/11 08:50 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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I would say harp if you are a true badass.





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Re: What is the best/most versatile instrument to create melodies with? [Re: Humility]
    #14514007 - 05/26/11 09:29 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe I'm biased.



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Re: What is the best/most versatile instrument to create melodies with? [Re: saxcidjazz]
    #14514074 - 05/26/11 10:03 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Kazoos are good for your purposes.



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Re: What is the best/most versatile instrument to create melodies with? [Re: Satyapriya]
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Re: What is the best/most versatile instrument to create melodies with? [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14514282 - 05/26/11 11:30 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

A synth :tongue: You can make it sound like anything.


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