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dmt extraction safety and lye burns * 1
    #14513545 - 05/26/11 02:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Because there is so much discussion about DMT extraction in the Psychedelic Experience, I think that it would be good idea to sticky this thread here. I know this is long. I figured it would be better to cover as much as I could, rather than leave potential accidents up to individual interpretation.

I just had a somewhat unpleasant experience with lye. It wasn't horrible, but unpleasant is a very good way of describing it. If anyone is deciding to do a DMT extraction, I personally would simply go no further in the extraction until you have a desk, fan, an open window, heavy duty gloves, soap, water, towel, and a gallon of vinegar.

I've read a few of the tek's, and not all of them mention some of the following.

I just opened up a bottle of lye. There must have been a lot of static electricity building up a positive charge, because the lye crystals were clinging to the sides and jumping around. I used a plastic spoon to weigh the lye, but I imagine if I had used a metal spoon it's possible that the lye would have been been repelled and "explode". Don't spill lye into the carpet...

To neutralize a lye or any chemical burn really, you need to run it under water for at least 15 minutes. It simply doesn't go away easily, and you need to get it away from you. You can soak your lye burn in vinegar or something, but you still need to have it under running water. Even a very small burn.

I recently made the mistake of not wearing heavy duty gloves. Wet lye burns through just about everything. I only had a drop or two splash on each hand. It soaked right through the gloves. My first reaction was "Aww that's cute. It feels like a nettle sting". These things only get worse... My next reaction was seeing how fast I could remove my gloves, because I realized what was going to happen. I washed my hands with soap and water. That took about 3 minutes. I spent another 10 minutes under running water later. One hand started to form a red ring around where the lye-water touched it, and the other was getting a quarter-sized stiff spot. I sucked on the stiff skin with my mouth, and I spit out blood. (don't do that if it's a bad lye burn.) It didn't look like the skin was broken, but I still got a little blood. I went back to work, and 10 minutes later I realized I didn't get all the lye out. I ran it under cold water again and rubbed a cold lemon into it. 20 minutes later, I realized I didn't get all of it... At this point I was feeling lazy and just rubbed a little vinegar into it. The point is that these things do not go away easily. As I write this it's now been about an hour after I first spilled. One hand looks 100% fine, and the other is down to a dime-sized stiff spot. Whatever you do, don't rub your eyes, pick your nose, etc.

Another part that I haven't seen really mentioned in the tek's is adding lye to water. Ventilation is a must. A lot of heat is generated by adding lye to water, and this creates a lye-water vapor. It doesn't matter if you add the lye slowly, it's still going to happen to some extent. At this point, I would recommend working quickly, with the lye above your head, and keep it ventilated. You don't want to inhale this, or get it in your eyes/nose.

Dry lye may be safe to store in plastic, glass, or steel. Wet lye is not safe to store in anything. My girlfriend is studying bio-chem, and she says that when they work with strong acids or bases, they are required to understand the procedure before they start. She said that this is because the acid/base will corrode the glass, and will eventually effect their volumetric measurements. They have to understand the procedure, and wash everything with soap and water as soon as possible.

If you are thinking of doing these extractions with children anywhere near you, shame on you... This is required reading for any one dumb enough to do that.


While you roll the naptha into the solution, you need to release the pressure about once every 30-60 seconds (if you're using jars, you'll hear the lid pop). It is going to create a strong suction. Don't put the cap on too tight, and test that it's on tightly enough to not drip.

Thanks for reading =)


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Edited by maug (05/26/11 11:32 AM)


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