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anyone move past death anxiety?
#14511069 - 05/25/11 05:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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myself id say half and half. id be lying if i said the thought makes me feel easy but i try not to think about it even though death is probably somethhing i think of every day
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Re: anyone move past death anxiety? [Re: skatealex2]
#14511128 - 05/25/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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According to Becker (and I'm fairly convinced) no human totally gets past some conscious or unconscious death anxiety.
Sai Baba recently died. When he got sick he went to a modern medical facility for treatment even though he claimed to be able to heal the sick with his mystical magical spiritual powers. If that's not death anxiety I don't know what is.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: anyone move past death anxiety? [Re: skatealex2]
#14511131 - 05/25/11 05:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah. I'm at least much better about it these days. Death is what we are, why fight the nature of things and make yourself miserable?
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Re: anyone move past death anxiety? [Re: skatealex2]
#14511265 - 05/25/11 06:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I am not done here, that is the only reason I avoid death.
When given the option to stay in the void of a mushroom trip the main reason I didn't want to stay was the thought of my dog and family needing me.
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Re: anyone move past death anxiety? [Re: 1983]
#14511291 - 05/25/11 06:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's an illusion that anyone needs you. That's death anxiety. We use outside things as excuses so we can convince ourselves we aren't secretly terrified. 
It's all there in Becker's work.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: anyone move past death anxiety? [Re: Icelander]
#14511320 - 05/25/11 06:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It is true that people don't need me, but that is probably caused a separate issue.
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Re: anyone move past death anxiety? [Re: 1983]
#14511352 - 05/25/11 06:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ain't no thing wrong with death anxiety unless its making you unhappy. However, worrying about whether or not you have death anxiety or how much of it you have is no worse than full blown death anxiety imo. I accept I have death anxiety and that it is pretty cool imo. It gives me that urge to want to live an enjoyable life.
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Re: anyone move past death anxiety? [Re: SlashOZ]
#14511363 - 05/25/11 06:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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We are all waves on the ocean of the universe of oneness. Once we realize we are waves on an ocean that cannot be destroyed we have nothing to fear. Death allows for change, nothing is destroyed, nothing is created (Einstein approved)
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Quote:
i like cow poo said: We are all waves on the ocean of the universe of oneness. Once we realize we are waves on an ocean that cannot be destroyed we have nothing to fear. Death allows for change, nothing is destroyed, nothing is created (Einstein approved)
Einstein was destroyed and odds are some day his ideas will be too.
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Re: anyone move past death anxiety? [Re: Kickle]
#14511403 - 05/25/11 06:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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He was not destroyed, his body merely decomposed and now contributes to benefit other lifeforms. None of us know for sure what the truth is or have a complete understanding. Anyone who claims to understand anything or everything with %100 certainty is obviously ARROGANT. I merely choose to believe in what makes me happiest and can benefit humanity Everybody is in the dark, so it makes sense to believe in what makes you happiest and can benefit humanity
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Definition of DESTROY transitive verb 1 : to ruin the structure, organic existence, or condition of <destroyed the files>; also : to ruin as if by tearing to shreds <their reputation was destroyed>
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Re: anyone move past death anxiety? [Re: Kickle]
#14511444 - 05/25/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Maybe by def he was destroyed. But his matter still helps to foster other life on this planet. Ever seen the lion king? CIRCLE of LIFE. Our perception is just nueral impulses in the brain, I am just living organic matter, a manifestation of the universe, and I am ok with that. Because I know life will go on and there will be happiness somewhere in some galaxy. I'm interested to see if you have something positive to say
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If you don't have a problem with the destruction of human lives then what makes what i have said negative?
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Re: anyone move past death anxiety? [Re: Kickle]
#14511472 - 05/25/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Touche. I guess the word destruction has a negative connotation in my mind. But your right, I don't (consciously) view death as a negative thing. Instinctively I think I do because its a psychological trait passed down to help our species survive.
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 that's what I experience too.
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Re: anyone move past death anxiety? [Re: Kickle] 1
#14511507 - 05/25/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
i like cow poo said: We are all waves on the ocean of the universe of oneness. Once we realize we are waves on an ocean that cannot be destroyed we have nothing to fear. Death allows for change, nothing is destroyed, nothing is created (Einstein approved)
I realize it's all one. But the fact remains we feel separate and have fear of death. We can tell ourselves all we want that nothing is destroyed in death but the personality is destroyed in death and it is the personality that fears dissolution. Evidence abounds.
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and can benefit humanity
As you said no one can be sure. Everyone has different ideas on what may benefit humanity. No way to know for sure who is right.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: anyone move past death anxiety? [Re: Icelander]
#14511713 - 05/25/11 08:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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"But the fact remains we feel separate and have fear of death."
I still don't know what we are fearing if we are fearing death. To fear death is to assume one knows something about it.
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Re: anyone move past death anxiety? [Re: xFrockx]
#14511728 - 05/25/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Haha Imma take 4 grams of pan cyans and cliff dive the day I die. I ain't scared
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