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Offlinezkee421
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Question about LSA extraction from Morning Glories
    #14509693 - 05/25/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hey... yeah, hi, I just created this account to ask this question. I'd be very grateful for a useful answer :smile:

I bought 7 grams of Morning Glory seeds. Everywhere I've looked leads me to believe I haven't bought enough. There are like 100 or so seeds in each 1 gram pack, and they look like little chocolate chips. (I bought the Ensign Blend - some seeds are lighter than others, damn)

Can I get a good trip out of this? Will extracting the LSA make it stronger? Should I go pocket some more seeds - maybe just the Heavenly Blue ones, so I can get a harder trip? Thanks for the information in advance.


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Re: Question about LSA extraction from Morning Glories [Re: zkee421]
    #14509718 - 05/25/11 12:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Pocket seeds?

I hope you're not shoplifting, because that would eventually cause morning glory's downfall.

Don't shoplift morning glory seeds.

Everyones body is different and reacts differently to different doses, plus some seeds are more potent than others so its hard to gauge dosage correctly with MG. It's a hit or miss.


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Re: Question about LSA extraction from Morning Glories [Re: I AM SWIM]
    #14509785 - 05/25/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, stealing them is no good.

But to answer your question, there are some other morning glories besides heavenly blues that have varying amounts of lsa. There are many that have none at all. I'm not really sure what the other ones containing lsa are called but a good place to look is http://www.erowid.org/
If you have some heavenly blues mixed in there, I would just do an extraction on the whole thing. It cant hurt to try to extract what isn't there... Also if you did do the extraction, in my experience 700 seeds isn't much (you do lose a little in the extraction). I would go to a bulk garden seed supplier online and you can get several trips worth at a very reasonable price, just make sure they're untreated.


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Re: Question about LSA extraction from Morning Glories [Re: Langstroth]
    #14509841 - 05/25/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, I know from personal experience, Shoplifting is definitely not something positive.. It's not just a crime..

They really aren't that expensive, I found 5g packs (that's 150seeds+) for 98cents at a regional place.. The seeds come from South tho.. cant recall the name...

But your 1g packs will typically be 40seeds or so.. Did you count them out?
Search for anything in regards to a Cold Water Extraction with Lemon for MorningGlory/LSA..

and I'd say 500-1000 seeds is a good dose, depending upon how trippy you want to get. 500 being mildly, but encompassing, and 1000 being totally immersed..

This is my experience only- Take careful precission when doing the Cold Water Extraction(CWE)... less you end up having a nauseous, disorienting, and foggy experience..  (set/setting dependent)


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Re: Question about LSA extraction from Morning Glories [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #14509862 - 05/25/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I am not stealing anything... wrong word, I guess? I carried them home in my pocket.


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Re: Question about LSA extraction from Morning Glories [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #14509866 - 05/25/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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FunkMasterShroom said:
Yes, I know from personal experience, Shoplifting is definitely not something positive.. It's not just a crime..

They really aren't that expensive, I found 5g packs (that's 150seeds+) for 98cents at a regional place.. The seeds come from South tho.. cant recall the name...

But your 1g packs will typically be 40seeds or so.. Did you count them out?
Search for anything in regards to a Cold Water Extraction with Lemon for MorningGlory/LSA..

and I'd say 500-1000 seeds is a good dose, depending upon how trippy you want to get. 500 being mildly, but encompassing, and 1000 being totally immersed..

This is my experience only- Take careful precission when doing the Cold Water Extraction(CWE)... less you end up having a nauseous, disorienting, and foggy experience..  (set/setting dependent)




I was considering just eating about 350 seeds.  I have minimal experience with psychedelics, and I'm a pretty light build.  Not sure if that makes a difference, though.  What do you think?


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Re: Question about LSA extraction from Morning Glories [Re: Psilosomniac]
    #14509943 - 05/25/11 01:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Psilosomniac said:
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FunkMasterShroom said:
Yes, I know from personal experience, Shoplifting is definitely not something positive.. It's not just a crime..

They really aren't that expensive, I found 5g packs (that's 150seeds+) for 98cents at a regional place.. The seeds come from South tho.. cant recall the name...

But your 1g packs will typically be 40seeds or so.. Did you count them out?
Search for anything in regards to a Cold Water Extraction with Lemon for MorningGlory/LSA..

and I'd say 500-1000 seeds is a good dose, depending upon how trippy you want to get. 500 being mildly, but encompassing, and 1000 being totally immersed..

This is my experience only- Take careful precission when doing the Cold Water Extraction(CWE)... less you end up having a nauseous, disorienting, and foggy experience..  (set/setting dependent)




I was considering just eating about 350 seeds.  I have minimal experience with psychedelics, and I'm a pretty light build.  Not sure if that makes a difference, though.  What do you think?





Well, that depends.. How is your metabolism? How does your stomach handle nasuea? How do you handle Nausea? Ever had scattered thoughts before?

I really wouldn't advise ever eating the seeds straight up, unless you just want to say 'what the fuck' and see how what it's like.. (are you actually wanting to have a potentially positive and wondrous trip? or do you just wanna get fucked up?)

I've tried 2200 seeds, ground up, and I was high for 3 days, and shit the seed stuff out like sandy mud from my ass.. I cant describe how intense that was.. I barely left the bathroom..

anyway- seeds straigh = negative potentials multiplied..

Some peoples digestion is fine with the seeds if they just eat it with yogurt or some other soft food.. even toast and or breads..

There are toxic chemicals in the seeds- one causing nausea and cramps, another causing disphoria and confusion..so.. the best method that I've tried has been the Cold Water Extraction with lemon juice-
350 seeds would give you a taster of it, and be good for a first time.. light build.. I'm a bigger build, and I often enjoy fully emmersive trips since I started entheogens, so everyone is very subjective..

Give it a shot- CWE, but my guess is that you'll feel like there could have been more to the trip- JUST DO THE COLD WATER EXTRACTION THOROUGHLY, AND PRECISELY!

ie- Filter very very well! And do everything you can to protect/proserve the alkaloids(LSA)- Heat, air, chlorine, and light will degrade them..

and something I havnt really tried yet- Add some Mint Extract/cold Mint Tea to it to possibly help convert some of the LSA in LSH (an apparently more fluid and psychedelic trip)


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Re: Question about LSA extraction from Morning Glories [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #14511172 - 05/25/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

350 seeds from the grocery store way back in the day rocked my world, miserable 2.5 hour come up and then...bliss.  don't bother with extracting, just wash, chew to a watery pulp, swallow and don't throw-up..voila


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Re: Question about LSA extraction from Morning Glories [Re: vadub]
    #14511573 - 05/25/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Lsa seems like there's such of a process that goes into making it so you can actually have.an enjoyable trip :/


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Re: Question about LSA extraction from Morning Glories [Re: bRaInMeLtErS]
    #14513023 - 05/26/11 12:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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bRaInMeLtErS said:
Lsa seems like there's such of a process that goes into making it so you can actually have.an enjoyable trip :/





... So?


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Re: Question about LSA extraction from Morning Glories [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #14513147 - 05/26/11 12:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've heard great things about ginger helping with nausea.  If I drank ginger tea after consuming the seeds, would the heat destroy the compound?  Perhaps I should make iced ginger tea?  Or could I drink the tea and wait a little bit before consuming the seeds?

In regards to my metabolism, my light build is mostly a result of my quick metabolism.  I only really get stomach problems if I eat a lot of fast food.  I'll probably end up just eating them for my first time and holding in the nausea as long as I can.  I've heard people swear by ginger, so I'm gonna give that a try as well.

Any other advice?  Thanks for the replies, by the way.  I always like getting opinions from people. :thumbup:


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Re: Question about LSA extraction from Morning Glories [Re: Psilosomniac]
    #14513370 - 05/26/11 01:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

eating the seeds would be the most worth while

but yeah, the first 2 hours or so are excrutiating, but after, even with roughly 7-10 grams worth, i had really really intense visuals

i kind of find Morning Glory seeds interesting, since you can fall asleep on them and wake up still tripping

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