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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #14506281 - 05/24/11 07:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

or admit crack isnt addicting :lol:

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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #14506288 - 05/24/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This is a lame semantics argument.

You know they're not even comparable.


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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: propensity]
    #14506295 - 05/24/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: propensity]
    #14506304 - 05/24/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Its not semantics.  People here are arguing pot isn't "physically addictive"(not a real medical term btw) so its not a true addiction due to the fact you dont have physical withdrawal.


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The emotional withdrawal symptoms of cocaine are:

Tiredness
Depression
Anxiety
Moodiness



replace cocaine with marijuana in this quote.... strange it seems to fit

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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: propensity]
    #14506310 - 05/24/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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propensity said:
This is a lame semantics argument.

You know they're not even comparable.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_dependence

It's on wikipedia.  Therefore it's valid.  QED.

BTW, here's how the American Society of Addiction Medicine defines addiction:
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Addiction is a primary, chronic disease of brain reward, motivation, memory and related circuitry. Dysfunction in these circuits leads to characteristic biological, psychological, social and spiritual manifestations. This is reflected in the individual pursuing reward and/or relief by substance use and other behaviors. The addiction is characterized by impairment in behavioral control, craving, inability to consistently abstain, and diminished recognition of significant problems with one’s behaviors and interpersonal relationships. Like other chronic diseases, addiction can involve cycles of relapse and remission. Without treatment or engagement in recovery activities, addiction is progressive and can result in disability or premature death.




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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #14506324 - 05/24/11 07:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Mush 4 Brains said:
Its not semantics.  People here are arguing pot isn't "physically addictive"(not a real medical term btw) so its not a true addiction due to the fact you dont have physical withdrawal.


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The emotional withdrawal symptoms of cocaine are:

Tiredness
Depression
Anxiety
Moodiness



replace cocaine with marijuana in this quote.... strange it seems to fit




not really. i would argue that the cause of the withdrawal would stem from the user's personal psychology to begin with. if the person is smoking weed or crack or eating mcdonalds, etc., in order to fill some emotional void then of course they will have withdrawals if they discontinue the practice.

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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Silversoul]
    #14506330 - 05/24/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You guys are pissed because the backbone of your argument was blown the fuck out of the water.

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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: nglsnv]
    #14506364 - 05/24/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Professor Tibbs said:
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Mush 4 Brains said:
Its not semantics.  People here are arguing pot isn't "physically addictive"(not a real medical term btw) so its not a true addiction due to the fact you dont have physical withdrawal.


Quote:

The emotional withdrawal symptoms of cocaine are:

Tiredness
Depression
Anxiety
Moodiness



replace cocaine with marijuana in this quote.... strange it seems to fit




not really. i would argue that the cause of the withdrawal would stem from the user's personal psychology to begin with. if the person is smoking weed or crack or eating mcdonalds, etc., in order to fill some emotional void then of course they will have withdrawals if they discontinue the practice.



semantics?:tongue2:

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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #14506476 - 05/24/11 07:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:randy: Marijuana is medicine people.


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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #14508356 - 05/25/11 03:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

why did you change your user Title from

weed isnt medicine you stoner (or something similar)

to

"Cocaine is not addictive"

are you just trying to encourage people not to take your posts seriously.

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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #14508391 - 05/25/11 04:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Mush 4 Brains said:
You guys are pissed because the backbone of your argument was blown the fuck out of the water.




Not really.

If you went up to a crackhead who ruined his life with the substance and said "Weed is addictive"

He would probably slap you and tell you you are retarded.

No one runs their life into the ground smoking weed.

Perhaps some people would be unable to stop smoking weed to the point where you could call them addicted. This is obviously so uncommon that it's pretty retarded to go ahead and call weed addictive, because really the only danger of having some kind of deeply pathological fixation on weed lies in some kind of rare imbalance specific to a very small number of individuals, if any.

In general, weed is not addictive.


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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: propensity]
    #14508404 - 05/25/11 04:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Research has shown the overall addiction potential for cannabis to be much less than for tobacco, alcohol, cocaine or heroin, but slightly higher than that for psilocybin, mescaline, LSD, and MDMA
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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: mellowparty]
    #14508416 - 05/25/11 04:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Mentally addictive, sure.

So are video games
guns
shoes
TV
movies
food
cars
motorcycles
chocolate
caffeine
the internet
shroomery
stamps
arcades
casinos
and so on

Physically addictive? Get the fuck out of here. And if you even begin to claim weed ruined your life, you need a good smack across the face so you can wake the fuck up.


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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: gzuf]
    #14508445 - 05/25/11 04:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:facepalm: again with the retarded internet/chocolate comparison. So according to you the sleeping pattern disturbances, the metabolic perturbations and lack of appetite are just in my head?

Start smoking 2 grams a day for 6months and then stop all of sudden.


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    #14508476 - 05/25/11 05:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Locky]
    #14508479 - 05/25/11 05:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You're only addicted to substances when you suck dick and steal stuff mang


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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: mellowparty]
    #14508698 - 05/25/11 07:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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:facepalm: again with the retarded internet/chocolate comparison. So according to you the sleeping pattern disturbances, the metabolic perturbations and lack of appetite are just in my head?




:rolleyes: Yeah yeah I'm sure a fuckin' WoW junkie doesn't go through the same shit when he stops staring at a computer screen for 16 hours after 6 months. Is it really that hard to believe that after you make something a normal function and stop it suddenly after months it may change your appetite, sleeplessness and perturbation (I really thought it said masturbation)

Get the fuck outta here. It's absolutely nothing abnormal that no one else wouldn't experience quitting any other thing they feed their mind with daily for an extended period of time. I had to quit weed for a job after a hefty 3 or 4 years of daily smoking. It sucked, I did it and at first I thought about weed all the time - then slowly but Shirley I began forget until I didn't think about it anymore. When I think of withdraw I'm not thinking of some stoner who smokes a lot of weed then doesn't. If that is the case, I'm thinking about some guy who just has to  :blewmeanie:


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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: gzuf]
    #14508728 - 05/25/11 07:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

We're not saying it's hard to quit


it's just addictive

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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Beanhead]
    #14508730 - 05/25/11 07:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Beanhead]
    #14508732 - 05/25/11 07:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I know I would definitely class myself as a marijuana fiend,addict if you will.

No granny or child with money is safe when I need my joint.


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