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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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ever wonder if the world/people/etc. are real, or if it's all a figment of your imagination?
    #14507513 - 05/24/11 11:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Seriously.. how do I know that everything here is real and all you people, and everyone else I've encountered in my life, are really there?

How do I know that my mind isn't just creating all this? :eek:


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Re: ever wonder if the world/people/etc. are real, or if it's all a figment of your imagination? [Re: Shroomarathoner]
    #14507657 - 05/24/11 11:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Creating it from what?

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Re: ever wonder if the world/people/etc. are real, or if it's all a figment of your imagination? [Re: Shroomarathoner]
    #14508030 - 05/25/11 01:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You don't, but since there is no observable difference between the two scenarios, I would suggest that there is no relevant difference between the two cases.

The observations we make are compatible with any number of explanations, and science is only concerned with the efficient cause percisely because there is no point to concerning ourselves with cumbersome possibilities that are no different in their effects. 

In a very real way, since the world is always interpreted through intermediaries, we can never be sure of anything's 'true nature', nor is their any point to distinguishing between the possibilities.


It would be as useless to perceive how things 'actually look' as it would be to watch the random dots on untuned television screens.

    Marvin Minsky

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