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Re: Dems Take NY-26 [Re: johnm214]
    #14510638 - 05/25/11 04:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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johnm214 said:
They should insittute instant run off voting and stop making these elctions a farce.




I'd love to see that, but even if it were instituted today, I expect it'd be years before any significant change resulted... if ever.

But you got to start somewhere.


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Re: Dems Take NY-26 [Re: jimbotron]
    #14511505 - 05/25/11 07:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
If you fuck the drug companies there will be no drugs.

Why should drug companies sell for less when people think their product is worth more?  I agree that the other countries should definitely pay more.  I'm sick of subsidizing them, the shiftless no account scum.





If we had somewhat of a free market in drugs, they probably would be less, but your banned from ordering most chemicals out of fear of liability and government nonsense/meth lab hysteria and drugs particularly to give the pharmacists something to do and keep the doctors making $$$

Far better would be to make drugs like every other consumer product and stop the ridiculous border restrictions. 

As it is, your banned from getting a substance made to medical standards unless you get a prescription, due to FDA and DEA nonsense. The doctors are free to charge whatever they want and you must return to see them for your acen medication if you want to continue the therapy, et cet.  Paternalism at its best.  (the retail pharmacists are even worse, but that's another story)


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I don't think Davis was enough of a determining factor.  I think the determining factor was Corwin's weakness as a candidate and inability to spew lies as facilely as a career politician can.





I don't know anything about that race.  Was just commenting on my dislike of winner-takes-all voting systems.


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I don't know how this can be made any more clear.





You could justify the entire premise.  All you've done is cited lower prices elsewhere with not argument how they are too expensive here.


As we shift to more complicated medicine with more therapies available, people seem to still think there is one way to deal with any condition, and that 'treatment' should include any conceivable therapy.  This is simply impossible and stupid.  You are allready covered for life threatening conditions via the emergency room and that takes care of most of the silly arguments (like jimbotron's about the pill that will save your life- you'll get it anyways per government mandate).

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Re: Dems Take NY-26 [Re: jimbotron]
    #14513490 - 05/26/11 02:19 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yes, those who was to eliminate Medicare/Medicaid are actually far beyond the pale. A majority of Americans don't want them fiddled with.

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Re: Dems Take NY-26 [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14514707 - 05/26/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Yes, those who was to eliminate Medicare/Medicaid are actually far beyond the pale. A majority of Americans don't want them fiddled with.



Of course they do.  They don't have to pay for it.


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Re: Dems Take NY-26 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14521659 - 05/27/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Actually, the majority of Americans do pay for it.  They're just not the ones sitting in front of a computer typing right wing rants 18 hours a day.  They're out there actually working.
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Re: Dems Take NY-26 [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14521717 - 05/27/11 03:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
Actually, the majority of Americans do pay for it.  They're just not the ones sitting in front of a computer typing right wing rants 18 hours a day.  They're out there actually working.
RR



Hardly.  The people who pay for it are those at the top brackets who contribute most of the money and will never get any benefits.  Shouldn't you be failing at a business yourself right now?


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