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Invisibleshroomiin
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That funky "wet" wbs smell...
    #14506275 - 05/24/11 09:24 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Hey guys, so for those of you who know what i am talking about...

When wbs is too wet when its put into jars, then gets that fermented rotten smell to it. Is this considered contam? because the myc has colonized ~90 pecent of the jar, with no sign of any contam other than the wet rotten wbs on the bottom. Question is, are these jars fucked? Basically, i know the smell is due to fermenting grains and high moisture, but does this destroy the entire jar.

I have had success scaping off the fermenting wbs under running water and spawning the healthy myc, but i wanted others opinions.


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Re: That funky "wet" wbs smell... [Re: shroomiin]
    #14506285 - 05/24/11 09:25 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I doubt it. But if it IS too fuckered to continue colonizing, I bet you can still G2G the stuff ontop.


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Re: That funky "wet" wbs smell... [Re: shadowman-x]
    #14506336 - 05/24/11 09:36 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, i had some that stalled completely due to high water content. I birthed em anyways, rinsing off/scraping off all the shitty slimey rotten wbs, and spwaned it. Monotub went 100% fine.

Just wondering if i got lucky or if fermenting wbs is safe


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Re: That funky "wet" wbs smell... [Re: shroomiin]
    #14506388 - 05/24/11 09:43 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Same thing happened to us once and the end result was just fine.  I wouldn't be too concerned about saftey unless an obvious contam piggy backs on the wettest stuff.


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Re: That funky "wet" wbs smell... [Re: shroomiin]
    #14506415 - 05/24/11 09:48 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like what you are describing is a bacterial contam. It is possible for mycelium to colonize grain with a little bit of bacterial contamination but it will take much longer and it's usually best to just throw it out.

Usually this is caused as you said by grain being to wet, and yes it is a contam, and quite an annoying one to since it will happen regardless of how sterile you were if your grain is to wet.

I have had minimal success scraping off jars with a tiny bit of bacterial contam but I'd expect it to fail.


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Re: That funky "wet" wbs smell... [Re: Mycjunky]
    #14506615 - 05/24/11 10:23 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

well i got rid of everything touching the rotten grain, including close myc growth, i just took the healthy stuff and it worked


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Re: That funky "wet" wbs smell... [Re: shroomiin]
    #21989315 - 07/24/15 12:27 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

No probably not a contam if anything just stalling during colonization


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Re: That funky "wet" wbs smell... [Re: BornToTest]
    #21989593 - 07/24/15 12:55 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

the smell you describe is a bacterial contamination. often people think they are spawning clean grain when in fact it has become bacterial. you can get fruits off bacterial spawn when it is transferred to bulk, but yields will suffer and it is more prone to other contaminants. I wouldn't waste my time with it and just refine my grain prep procedure. I do not care for WBS due how dirty it is, however many on here swear by it.


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Re: That funky "wet" wbs smell... [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21989883 - 07/24/15 01:41 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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SteveRogers said:
I do not care for WBS due how dirty it is, however many on here swear by it.



I hear this all the time. I just switched to whole oats. I was extremely surprised to find that it took twice the rinsing of the oats for the water to run clear compared to my last bags of WBS. I'm using the oats from TSC that are highly recommended.


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Re: That funky "wet" wbs smell... [Re: Juiceh]
    #21989932 - 07/24/15 01:51 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Juiceh said:
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SteveRogers said:
I do not care for WBS due how dirty it is, however many on here swear by it.



I hear this all the time. I just switched to whole oats. I was extremely surprised to find that it took twice the rinsing of the oats for the water to run clear compared to my last bags of WBS. I'm using the oats from TSC that are highly recommended.



You rinse your oats?

:ducklol:

Never have I ever...

I use Producer's Pride from TSC also :shrug:


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Re: That funky "wet" wbs smell... [Re: taGyo]
    #21989953 - 07/24/15 01:58 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

taGyo said:
Quote:

Juiceh said:
Quote:

SteveRogers said:
I do not care for WBS due how dirty it is, however many on here swear by it.



I hear this all the time. I just switched to whole oats. I was extremely surprised to find that it took twice the rinsing of the oats for the water to run clear compared to my last bags of WBS. I'm using the oats from TSC that are highly recommended.



You rinse your oats?

:ducklol:

Never have I ever...

I use Producer's Pride from TSC also :shrug:




I rinsed my TSC Producers Pride oats one time and after I saw it run clear from the get go, I have not rinsed again.


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Re: That funky "wet" wbs smell... [Re: insanemike]
    #21989965 - 07/24/15 01:59 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I thought the whole point was no rinse lol. I hated WBS for that reason.


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Re: That funky "wet" wbs smell... [Re: taGyo]
    #21990012 - 07/24/15 02:11 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

After trying wbs a few times, I gave up on it and moved on to wbr and popcorn. You can't get much cleaner than thoughs. So when I tried oats for the first time, I assumed they were dirty like wbs.


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Re: That funky "wet" wbs smell... [Re: taGyo]
    #21990069 - 07/24/15 02:23 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

taGyo said:
Quote:

Juiceh said:
Quote:

SteveRogers said:
I do not care for WBS due how dirty it is, however many on here swear by it.



I hear this all the time. I just switched to whole oats. I was extremely surprised to find that it took twice the rinsing of the oats for the water to run clear compared to my last bags of WBS. I'm using the oats from TSC that are highly recommended.



You rinse your oats?

:ducklol:

Never have I ever...

I use Producer's Pride from TSC also :shrug:



Yes, because I wanted to prep it the same way I did wbs to compare.
I guess I got a dirty bag of producers pride.


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Re: That funky "wet" wbs smell... [Re: Juiceh]
    #21990080 - 07/24/15 02:26 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Thats what I'm thinking, not sure about producers Prides quality control. Also different areas, I'm on the east coast.


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Re: That funky "wet" wbs smell... [Re: taGyo]
    #21990105 - 07/24/15 02:35 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I got mine in the upper midwest.


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