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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Beanhead]
    #14505086 - 05/24/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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to be honest I smoke 5-6 grams every two days :blush:




:eek: wow, just wow. If I smoke that much I'd die :vaped:


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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: mellowparty]
    #14505091 - 05/24/11 03:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Weed is the most addictive thing I've ever done.  With alcohol I've been tempted to drink several days in a row, but not all day every day.  With pot, there can be a tendency to smoke from the time you get up to the time you go to bed.  I have a (former) friend whose life has pretty much disappeared behind a cloud of smoke.  It's a sad thing to see.  Personally, I'm glad I quit.


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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Silversoul]
    #14505278 - 05/24/11 04:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Seriously? If your addicted you will have physical symptoms. It's habit forming, like fast food.


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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: 2Cents]
    #14505310 - 05/24/11 04:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I posted the fucking definition of "addicted" on the first page.

And yet we still have 6 pages of this?


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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: propensity]
    #14505338 - 05/24/11 04:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: propensity]
    #14505345 - 05/24/11 04:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That definition was pretty vague.  Although, frankly, most are which is part of the reason there is 6 pages on this.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: propensity]
    #14505409 - 05/24/11 04:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That was just a small definition of two words...
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propensity said:
I posted the fucking definition of "addicted" on the first page.

And yet we still have 6 pages of this?




what else do we have to talk about :tongue2:

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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: propensity]
    #14505415 - 05/24/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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propensity said:
ad·dict·ed/əˈdiktid/Adjective
1. Physically and mentally dependent on a particular substance, and unable to stop taking it

ad·dic·tion noun \ə-ˈdik-shən, a-\
1
: the quality or state of being addicted <addiction to reading>
2
: compulsive need for and use of a habit-forming substance (as heroin, nicotine, or alcohol) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal; broadly : persistent compulsive use of a substance




Not vague, very specific.


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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: propensity]
    #14505440 - 05/24/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The universe is commonly defined as the totality of everything that exists.

Do you understand it now ?























just joking propensity, have a cupcake

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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: propensity]
    #14505473 - 05/24/11 04:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So then, what if you can easily stop (not fulfilling definition 1), but have well-defined physiological symptoms?

What if you have 3 but not 1?

What if you have #1 tuesday, but not Wednesday?  What if you have both, but a year apart?  Sounds pretty vague to me.  What is meant by "Well-defined" physiological symptoms?

DSM-IV presents, actual clinical criteria for a diagnosis (although their interpretation are vague).  It's what actually used by physicians.  Its at least a starting point for discussion.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

Edited by badchad (05/24/11 04:56 PM)

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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: badchad]
    #14505502 - 05/24/11 05:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

nice1 some more information on the GABA-a
http://neuro.cjb.net/content/20/7/2470.full

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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: badchad]
    #14505516 - 05/24/11 05:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Addictive or not, I think it is severely under discussed (the problem of heavy weed users quitting). The disrupted REM cycles can cause some severe nightmares and terrible sleep quality once alter by heavy use of weed. I see it in my brother when we go on vacations via airplane where he can't bring weed.


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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: badchad]
    #14505521 - 05/24/11 05:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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That definition was pretty vague.  Although, frankly, most are which is part of the reason there is 6 pages on this.



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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #14505551 - 05/24/11 05:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Would you suck dick for weed? No.

Would you just prefer to have some than not? Most definitely.

Cravings are gotten but it's not the end of the world type stuff,just hungry for a nice joint.


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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #14505562 - 05/24/11 05:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Jimtown said:
Would you suck dick for weed? No.

Would you just prefer to have some than not? Most definitely.

Cravings are gotten but it's not the end of the world type stuff,just hungry for a nice joint.



I wouldnt suck dick for a cigarette or any drug.  For that we are talking millions of dollars, its a recession what can i say.

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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #14505591 - 05/24/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Jimtown said:
Would you suck dick for weed? No.

Would you just prefer to have some than not? Most definitely.

Cravings are gotten but it's not the end of the world type stuff,just hungry for a nice joint.



I wouldnt suck dick for a cigarette or any drug.  For that we are talking millions of dollars, its a recession what can i say.




Okay,insert any random desperate addict act in there instead,robbing old women etc.


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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #14506093 - 05/24/11 06:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Am I on page 7 yet?


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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: propensity]
    #14506233 - 05/24/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I posted the fucking definition of "addicted" on the first page.

And yet we still have 6 pages of this?



I'm not trying to offend mate, I just think the term "addiction" is used too loosely. I don't doubt it's very hard for some people to stop a long time habit. I also am not downplaying your difficulty, it just would seam more appropriate to specify this as mental dependence.

Drugs that cause a physical reaction after prolonged use when quitting should be called addictive.

Cannabis is habit forming but u won't have physical withdrawals. You get used to the sensation and chemical change so once stopped, some people have sleep issues and emotional changes. Any physical problems/issues one has from quiting cannabis is psychosomatic.

Again, not being rude. I just think that I used to smoke every day since I was 17 and quite at 19 with no problem other than difficulty sleeping which I already had before I smoked weed, but everyone's different.


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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: 2Cents]
    #14506253 - 05/24/11 07:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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propensity said:
I posted the fucking definition of "addicted" on the first page.

And yet we still have 6 pages of this?



I'm not trying to offend mate, I just think the term "addiction" is used too loosely. I don't doubt it's very hard for some people to stop a long time habit. I also am not downplaying your difficulty, it just would seam more appropriate to specify this as mental dependence.

Drugs that cause a physical reaction after prolonged use when quitting should be called addictive.

Cannabis is habit forming but u won't have physical withdrawals. You get used to the sensation and chemical change so once stopped, some people have sleep issues and emotional changes. Any physical problems/issues one has from quiting cannabis is psychosomatic.

Again, not being rude. I just think that I used to smoke every day since I was 17 and quite at 19 with no problem other than difficulty sleeping which I already had before I smoked weed, but everyone's different.



Woah, misunderstanding here.

I'm on your side brah. Weed is definitely not "addictive"


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Re: Why do so many people claim that weed is non-addictive? [Re: 2Cents]
    #14506260 - 05/24/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So crack isn't addicting because there are no physical withdrawals..... You folks that don't think marijuana is addicting need to rethink your argument.


http://www.addictionsandrecovery.org/cocaine.htm

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