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Consecutive shroom usage?
    #14506208 - 05/24/11 07:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

A group of buds and I are getting shrooms for Bonnaroo and a friend asked me a question I didn't know how to answer, so here I am.

Are there any effects with shrooming day after day? In terms of health and increase or decreasing of intensity?


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: thedutchrudder]
    #14506217 - 05/24/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Tolerance.


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: pescadorabioso]
    #14506226 - 05/24/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

it loses it magic but 5 day binges caused some soft poops but thats all


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: metall]
    #14506245 - 05/24/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So any recommendations to make the most of each experience we have? We're thinking of bring 6 g's for the 4 day fest. Also, a shit ton of weed


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: thedutchrudder]
    #14506248 - 05/24/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

2 g's one night 4 g's second maybe lemon tek 1g of the 4g on second night


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: metall]
    #14506265 - 05/24/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

And is there a scientific explanation do how the magic is lost?


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: thedutchrudder]
    #14506272 - 05/24/11 07:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ur brain hasa tolerance to it it builds and fades quickly back to back is not bad but after that u can experience much less i think ur just more used to it


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: metall]
    #14506323 - 05/24/11 07:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So it's just getting used to the experience, not actually building a tolerance like you do to THC?


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: thedutchrudder]
    #14506343 - 05/24/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

No, there is an actual chemical tolerance too. You'll need more the second day, thats why metall recommended 2 g one day 4 g the next.


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: eyesofachild]
    #14506350 - 05/24/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The tolerance though lasts very shortly, only a few days.  Also there's a cross tolerance with LSD as they work on similar serotonin receptors


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: thedutchrudder]
    #14506362 - 05/24/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Look it's a tolerance, the effects are far less profound. People have told you how it works, there is no need to repeat ourselves here...

Now either take their advice, or be prepared to waste alot of your money/shrooms, as the effects are greatly diminished by back to back doses.


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #14506378 - 05/24/11 07:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i have lots of back to back experience i recomend 2g then 4g with 1g of the 4 lemon tek for best bang but anythign else  imo is waste


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: metall]
    #14506402 - 05/24/11 07:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Don't shoot the messenger man haha, I'm just asking whatever my friend is asking me to ask in response to what y'all are saying. His conclusion is he needs more shrooms, so he is heeding y'alls advice, he just wanted to understand the science behind it. He's the kinda guy that likes an explanation rather than just anecdotes.

One thing we don't understand... what's a lemon tek? haha


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: eyesofachild]
    #14506412 - 05/24/11 07:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

during the effect the synapses are flooded with serotonin.
it gets metabolized as you come down.
the flooding of synapses depletes the storage (perhaps the neurons have vacuoles that only contain so much)
later under repeat dosage, there is hardly enough serotonin to engender the effects.
given 3 or 4 days the neurons are all recharged and there is plenty of serotonin to go round.

the 5ht triggered pathways are somehow involved with his serotonin synapse flooding.
and the synapse flooding keeps neurons firing longer for each stimulus.

does the 5ht receptor trigger the emptying of vacuoles that carry serotonin?

basically we don't know exactly.


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: thedutchrudder]
    #14506427 - 05/24/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

thedutchrudder said:
Don't shoot the messenger man haha, I'm just asking whatever my friend is asking me to ask in response to what y'all are saying. His conclusion is he needs more shrooms, so he is heeding y'alls advice, he just wanted to understand the science behind it. He's the kinda guy that likes an explanation rather than just anecdotes.

One thing we don't understand... what's a lemon tek? haha




It's a method of consuming your shrooms. It makes the onset quicker and the duration shorter but more intense. To do a lemon tek you crush up the shrooms and put them into a shot glass along with lemon juice (from a lemon, of course) and I think you also put a bit of lime juice. Then you wait 30 minutes or so and down the shot.


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: DesignatedTripper]
    #14506447 - 05/24/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

hits me in 15 ussally with lemon tek so just be prepared for quick onset and awesum answer DesignatedTripper always nice to see fellow canadians


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: metall]
    #14506464 - 05/24/11 07:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Shroom Tea is another option, but just eating them straight gives you the longest ride/high/trip.

Lemon Tek is only advisable if you have a smaller amount of shrooms, and wanna increase the strength (but the length of the trip itself is much shorter).


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #14506600 - 05/24/11 08:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My friend asks: "will the lack of serotonin levels be of issue if I pop a molly while on 2 grams of shrooms my 3rd day of shrooming?"

Sorry for all the questions, but once again, I'm just the messenger


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: thedutchrudder]
    #14506608 - 05/24/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

lsd is better for festivals and consecutive use imo.


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Re: Consecutive shroom usage? [Re: thedutchrudder]
    #14507453 - 05/24/11 11:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

thedutchrudder said:
My friend asks: "will the lack of serotonin levels be of issue if I pop a molly while on 2 grams of shrooms my 3rd day of shrooming?"

Sorry for all the questions, but once again, I'm just the messenger



From my experience, you won't even feel 2g on the 3rd day, you might feel the molly if it's a larger amount than average since the cross tolerance isn't too much. But since it's 3rd day I can't say for sure.

Personally I'd do the 2g first day and take 4g the second like metal suggested, and then take the molly on the third day, but don't expect the usual strength from it.


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