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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: mellowparty]
    #14505869 - 05/24/11 06:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've heard the dex is much cleaner-feeling than adderall. I kind of want to try it, but after what wakeboardrB said especially I have my trepidations.

Vyvanse is actually really good judging from the one time I've tried it. It lasts all day and helps with concentration almost as much as adderall (which is to say a lot) without the pulse-palpitating jaw-clenching psychopathic-hedonistic amphetamine edge.


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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14505886 - 05/24/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The thing I hate about stimulants is how they drain your brain from the :feelsgoodman: molecules just to leave you sort of empty. Then boredom and agitation come and general shittiness.

Still pretty useful with studies.

My fav thing about dex is how it makes me want to sit down and write stuff especially maths problems. Too bad my course doesnt require pretty much any maths :sad:

But yeah its f great for when thangs need to get done :twitchy:


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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: mellowparty]
    #14505902 - 05/24/11 06:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The thing is that GE and bureaucracy in school makes me agitated and shitty and bored all on its own, so the stimulants are helping me out a lot with that crap. The GE has been a roadblock for me for years. Science classes, on the other hand, actually hold my attention without the need for tampering with my dopamine system, so I'm looking forward to not having to take the other classes. :crazy:

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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14506068 - 05/24/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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i hate speed period.




If drugs have spirits, then alcohol would be the Devil.




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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: Enjoywho]
    #14506101 - 05/24/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Whoever said the Devil had only one face? :Trollface:


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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14506120 - 05/24/11 06:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

How does one find dexedrine?

I've never seen it around.


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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: propensity]
    #14506174 - 05/24/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You ask your doctor, I believe. :shrug: I've never seen dealers selling it.


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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14506317 - 05/24/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

'They' used to sell d-amphetamines like adderal in drug stores no script needed. 'They' also used to give them to soldiers for use in combat/alertness in vietnam.

Pot and amps go together if thats yer cup of tea. Add some good bass tunes and you are a geeked out cyborg human.

Theres my two cents


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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: ShakeZor]
    #14506356 - 05/24/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm pretty sure "they" still give amphetamines to fighter pilots on long flying assignments.

But yeah, I can't imagine living in a world where anybody can just buy amphetamines at the drug store. :eek:


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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14506383 - 05/24/11 07:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm pretty sure "they" still give amphetamines to fighter pilots on long flying assignments.

But yeah, I can't imagine living in a world where anybody can just buy amphetamines at the drug store. :eek:




Hopefully we'll see it before we die.


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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14506398 - 05/24/11 07:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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i hate speed period.




If drugs have spirits, then speed would be the Devil.





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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14506486 - 05/24/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm pretty sure "they" still give amphetamines to fighter pilots on long flying assignments.

But yeah, I can't imagine living in a world where anybody can just buy amphetamines at the drug store. :eek:




From what I've read, the military is leaning more towards Modafinil as their go to stay awake drug.

And you can still get methamphetamine at any drug store or gas station in the form of Vicks Vapor Inhaler. Of course it's the Levo isomer of meth which doesn't get you high, but it's still methamphetamine. No script required.

To get the dextro isomer of methamphetamine, (the one that does get you high), you'll need a script for Desoxyn. But it's insanely expensive and rarely used.

Personally I liked Dexedrine. It's straight Dextro-Amphetamine without all that bullshit L and D sulfate and sacrinate they put in Adderall. Much smoother effects without the peripherial effects Adderall causes like sweating, rapid increase in heart rate and a very uncomfortable crash if you abuse it. Don't get me wrong, Dexedrine crash is still pretty bad if you've been up on it for 2-3 days, but Adderall is worse.


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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14506522 - 05/24/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I've heard the dex is much cleaner-feeling than adderall. I kind of want to try it, but after what wakeboardrB said especially I have my trepidations.

Vyvanse is actually really good judging from the one time I've tried it. It lasts all day and helps with concentration almost as much as adderall (which is to say a lot) without the pulse-palpitating jaw-clenching psychopathic-hedonistic amphetamine edge.




Vyvanse is Dextro-Amphetamine (same stuff that's in Dexedrine), but it's bound to Lysine, which requires a pass through your metabolism before it becomes active. Therefore it lasts a long time. I've used it once and it lasted around 12 hours with. It's also about 2.5x less potent than Dexedrine. That's why it's sold in 50 and 70mg pills.

I always liked the instant release 5mg GSK brand name Dexedrine. I could increase my dose every few hours and stay awake for days.

But then I realized that working on your car at 3am is NOT normal activity. Neither is staying awake for 5 days playing Sim City and Far Cry.

I told my doc I was abusing it and didn't want it any more. I was very underweight and was only sleeping 2-3 days a week.

I'm still ADHD inattentive as hell and could benefit from it, but I'm an addict and I CAN'T control my amphetamine use.


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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14506557 - 05/24/11 08:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That sucks man, but I know how it is. :zomgwtf:

Either way glad to hear you caught yourself, even if it was a bit late.

Did you ever try ritalin? It's definitely abusable but it's a much weaker recreational drug than amphetamine and it also has a much shorter crash. I've admittedly played with recreational use but it doesn't tempt me in that unholy demonic way amps do.

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But then I realized that working on your car at 3am is NOT normal activity. Neither is staying awake for 5 days playing Sim City and Far Cry.




This made me :lol:. Hey man, better than beating your meat bloody for twelve straight hours. That's what I usually do.

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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: trekie]
    #14506718 - 05/24/11 08:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Yeah that shit can become a problem real quick .

I hate how balls to the wallz I feel and I get real mean on the come down



i get like this even if i just take a 30 mg time release. it also makes my hands itch a lot.


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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14506786 - 05/24/11 08:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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And you can still get methamphetamine at any drug store or gas station in the form of Vicks Vapor Inhaler. Of course it's the Levo isomer of meth which doesn't get you high, but it's still methamphetamine. No script required.





As a belated aside, apparently amphetamine abuse first really took off during the time those inhalers had the actual dextrorotary isomer which gets you high as a motherfucker. The 30's must have been such a surreal time night-life wise, people running around hopped up on medicine-soaked cotton balls ripped out of inhalers... :methisgood:


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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14507316 - 05/24/11 10:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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And you can still get methamphetamine at any drug store or gas station in the form of Vicks Vapor Inhaler. Of course it's the Levo isomer of meth which doesn't get you high, but it's still methamphetamine. No script required.





As a belated aside, apparently amphetamine abuse first really took off during the time those inhalers had the actual dextrorotary isomer which gets you high as a motherfucker. The 30's must have been such a surreal time night-life wise, people running around hopped up on medicine-soaked cotton balls ripped out of inhalers... :methisgood:




As far as I know, it was up until the 60's. Benzedrine, Benzedrex, all sorts of legal amphetamines you could buy over the counter.


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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14507332 - 05/24/11 10:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah I hate adderall. I prefer downers...ill take a good xanax over adderall aaanyday

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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14507340 - 05/24/11 10:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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That sucks man, but I know how it is. :zomgwtf:

Either way glad to hear you caught yourself, even if it was a bit late.

Did you ever try ritalin? It's definitely abusable but it's a much weaker recreational drug than amphetamine and it also has a much shorter crash. I've admittedly played with recreational use but it doesn't tempt me in that unholy demonic way amps do.




I started out with Concerta, but with the lack of health insurance (100 bucks a month), and my journey into the path of addiction, I had my doctor give me dexedrine instead. One of my friends took it and spoke very highly :grin: of it, so I asked the doc and he was ok with it.


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Re: I fucking hate adderall [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #14507366 - 05/24/11 10:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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yeah I hate adderall. I prefer downers...ill take a good xanax over adderall aaanyday




These days I'm prescribed Xanax, Klonopin and Restoril, but man I miss the energy amphetamines gave me.

BTW, I don't abuse any of the benzos I take. It's necessary or else I go into panic attack mode. And I'd rather have a heart attack or have a finger amputated than another panic attack.

Oddly enough, I never had panic attacks when I was a speed freak. It was over a year when I started experiencing them.


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