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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: Envix] * 1
    #14506819 - 05/24/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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there is no "afterlife" there is only life itself. existence itself. to accept jesus is to achieve salvation, not in the afterlife- but right now. through acting as the template form of your true essence "Yeshua" (i.e. Jesus), i.e. YHWH in verb form, describing what God (I AM) DOES, this is to be free of ego and to exist completely as christ consciousness/ buddha nature/ eternal being etc. wahtever you wish to call it.. that u truly are

i went to catholic school for 12 yrs




The only "afterlife" is when this illusory veil we are experiencing is lifted and we remember that we are yet another aspect of the Creator experiencing itself in the infinite and varied ways it can.

:pm: I found an excellent LoO study guide I think you'd appreciate! :super:


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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14506866 - 05/24/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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sunset_mission said:
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Envix said:
there is no "afterlife" there is only life itself. existence itself. to accept jesus is to achieve salvation, not in the afterlife- but right now. through acting as the template form of your true essence "Yeshua" (i.e. Jesus), i.e. YHWH in verb form, describing what God (I AM) DOES, this is to be free of ego and to exist completely as christ consciousness/ buddha nature/ eternal being etc. wahtever you wish to call it.. that u truly are

i went to catholic school for 12 yrs




The only "afterlife" is when this illusory veil we are experiencing is lifted and we remember that we are yet another aspect of the Creator experiencing itself in the infinite and varied ways it can.

:pm: I found an excellent LoO study guide I think you'd appreciate! :super:




I'm sorry but the veil of life is lifted? What the fuck?

if anything death is having the veil being placed over us.


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"Life's a bitch and then you die that's why we get high cuz you never know when you're gonna go." - NAS
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"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi
"Look up at me I am God, look down on me and I am evil, look at me I am you." - Charles Manson.
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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: SlashOZ] * 1
    #14506975 - 05/24/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

"religious person" usually = uneducated retard, in most cases.

that being said, there are very compelling arguments for god, depending on what your definition of him/it is. people tend to ascribe god human attributes because most mythology uses the male aspect of conception as a metaphor in order to describe reality (which is again another word that is totally hung up on how you define it). idiots can pass seminary school too, so that's the conception of god that people with no intellectual depth whatsoever tend to gravitate towards. that might sound harsh but it's the truth of it. i think most militant atheism is just a scorching critique of what amounts to the dumbest of what humanity has to offer. and, i get it. but really, neither side has no clue about religion or the purpose it serves. it's a really stupid argument that has no solution and i'm really not sure why i'm even bothering to post in this thread.

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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: SlashOZ]
    #14507038 - 05/24/11 09:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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SlashOZ said:
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sunset_mission said:
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Envix said:
there is no "afterlife" there is only life itself. existence itself. to accept jesus is to achieve salvation, not in the afterlife- but right now. through acting as the template form of your true essence "Yeshua" (i.e. Jesus), i.e. YHWH in verb form, describing what God (I AM) DOES, this is to be free of ego and to exist completely as christ consciousness/ buddha nature/ eternal being etc. wahtever you wish to call it.. that u truly are

i went to catholic school for 12 yrs




The only "afterlife" is when this illusory veil we are experiencing is lifted and we remember that we are yet another aspect of the Creator experiencing itself in the infinite and varied ways it can.

:pm: I found an excellent LoO study guide I think you'd appreciate! :super:




I'm sorry but the veil of life is lifted? What the fuck?

if anything death is having the veil being placed over us.




The veil of forgetfulness, i.e. forgetting your true nature, in order to allow free will to operate efficiently and so that we (as aspects of the One Infinite Creator) may partake in experiences purely and freely and experience the Creation as we choose, for if we were all incarnated with the set and certain knowledge that we are all portions of the divine it would make for a pretty boring existence, wouldn't ya think? - since nobody would do anything outside of the boundaries of peace and love and whatnot. There would be no preferences, no biases, no room for misunderstandings, and ultimately no experiences to teach us.

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THE VEIL OF FORGETFULNESS

THE VEIL IS PRESENT ONLY IN THIRD DENSITY

RA: This is the only plane of forgetting.  It is necessary for the 3rd density
entity to forget so that the mechanisms of confusion or free will may operate
upon the newly individuated consciousness complex. (B1,193)

RA: The same conditions existed in time/space (the metaphysical realms) both
before and after the veiling (or veil of forgetfulness); that is, the veiling process
is a space/time phenomenon. (B4,73)

RA: Without the veil the mind was not caught in your illusory time. (B4,94)

THE VEIL IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO HAVE "EXPERIENCE"

DON: Why must an entity come into an incarnation and lose conscious memory of what he wants
to do? Why can't he accomplish the same thing in between incarnations when the entity is aware of
what he wants to do? (B2,132)

RA: WERE THERE NO POTENTIALS FOR MISUNDERSTANDING,
THERE WOULD BE NO EXPERIENCE. (B3,24)

DON: The first change made for the extension of free will was to make the communication between
the conscious mind (Ra calls it the Matrix) and unconscious mind (Ra calls it the Potentiator)
relatively unavailable one to the other during the incarnation.  Is this correct? (B4,40)

RA: We would perhaps rather term the condition as relatively more mysteryfilled than relatively unavailable. (B4,41)
DON: The idea was then to create some type of veil between the conscious mind and the
unconscious mind.  Is this correct? (B4,41)
RA: This is correct.
DON: It was probably the design of the Logos to allow the conscious mind greater freedom under
the first distortion by partitioning it from the unconscious mind which had a greater communication
with the total mind, therefore allowing for the birth of "uneducated" portions of consciousness. Is
this correct? (B4,41)
RA: This is roughly correct. (B4,41)




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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14507092 - 05/24/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Law of One is the shit :thumbup:


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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14507159 - 05/24/11 10:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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sunset_mission said:
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SlashOZ said:
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sunset_mission said:
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Envix said:
there is no "afterlife" there is only life itself. existence itself. to accept jesus is to achieve salvation, not in the afterlife- but right now. through acting as the template form of your true essence "Yeshua" (i.e. Jesus), i.e. YHWH in verb form, describing what God (I AM) DOES, this is to be free of ego and to exist completely as christ consciousness/ buddha nature/ eternal being etc. wahtever you wish to call it.. that u truly are

i went to catholic school for 12 yrs




The only "afterlife" is when this illusory veil we are experiencing is lifted and we remember that we are yet another aspect of the Creator experiencing itself in the infinite and varied ways it can.

:pm: I found an excellent LoO study guide I think you'd appreciate! :super:




I'm sorry but the veil of life is lifted? What the fuck?

if anything death is having the veil being placed over us.




The veil of forgetfulness, i.e. forgetting your true nature, in order to allow free will to operate efficiently and so that we (as aspects of the One Infinite Creator) may partake in experiences purely and freely and experience the Creation as we choose, for if we were all incarnated with the set and certain knowledge that we are all portions of the divine it would make for a pretty boring existence, wouldn't ya think? - since nobody would do anything outside of the boundaries of peace and love and whatnot. There would be no preferences, no biases, no room for misunderstandings, and ultimately no experiences to teach us.

Quote:

THE VEIL OF FORGETFULNESS

THE VEIL IS PRESENT ONLY IN THIRD DENSITY

RA: This is the only plane of forgetting.  It is necessary for the 3rd density
entity to forget so that the mechanisms of confusion or free will may operate
upon the newly individuated consciousness complex. (B1,193)

RA: The same conditions existed in time/space (the metaphysical realms) both
before and after the veiling (or veil of forgetfulness); that is, the veiling process
is a space/time phenomenon. (B4,73)

RA: Without the veil the mind was not caught in your illusory time. (B4,94)

THE VEIL IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO HAVE "EXPERIENCE"

DON: Why must an entity come into an incarnation and lose conscious memory of what he wants
to do? Why can't he accomplish the same thing in between incarnations when the entity is aware of
what he wants to do? (B2,132)

RA: WERE THERE NO POTENTIALS FOR MISUNDERSTANDING,
THERE WOULD BE NO EXPERIENCE. (B3,24)

DON: The first change made for the extension of free will was to make the communication between
the conscious mind (Ra calls it the Matrix) and unconscious mind (Ra calls it the Potentiator)
relatively unavailable one to the other during the incarnation.  Is this correct? (B4,40)

RA: We would perhaps rather term the condition as relatively more mysteryfilled than relatively unavailable. (B4,41)
DON: The idea was then to create some type of veil between the conscious mind and the
unconscious mind.  Is this correct? (B4,41)
RA: This is correct.
DON: It was probably the design of the Logos to allow the conscious mind greater freedom under
the first distortion by partitioning it from the unconscious mind which had a greater communication
with the total mind, therefore allowing for the birth of "uneducated" portions of consciousness. Is
this correct? (B4,41)
RA: This is roughly correct. (B4,41)








So i'm still not sure why you are so dogmatic about this density stuff?

Clearly if you are aware of this oneness thing then there is no veil.

furthermore preaching about oneness would only further your argument of life being lived entirely within the boundaries of love, etc, etc. teddy bears, etc.

so if their is a veil and you've found out about it wouldn't it be in our best interest to remain under the veil in order to experience this existence to its fullest, otherwise, according to you, life would be pretty boring and unfruitful.


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"Life's a bitch and then you die that's why we get high cuz you never know when you're gonna go." - NAS
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"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi
"Look up at me I am God, look down on me and I am evil, look at me I am you." - Charles Manson.
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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: SlashOZ]
    #14507207 - 05/24/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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So i'm still not sure why you are so dogmatic about this density stuff?

Clearly if you are aware of this oneness thing then there is no veil.

furthermore preaching about oneness would only further your argument of life being lived entirely within the boundaries of love, etc, etc. teddy bears, etc.

so if their is a veil and you've found out about it wouldn't it be in our best interest to remain under the veil in order to experience this existence to its fullest, otherwise, according to you, life would be pretty boring and unfruitful.




Lol "this density stuff". Densities only refer to different levels of consciousness. The Law of One isn't dogmatic or imposing in that

1 – The principle is universally applicable, non sectarian, available to all.
2 – No particular skills and knowledge are required. It works for everyone.
3 – It is based on the respect of Free Will, with no manipulation.
4 – It is self-empowering, and based on individual choices.
5 – It does not rely on judgement, and is based on unconditional love.
6 – It is non-dogmatic.
7 – It promotes unity, rather than separation.

And regardless of whether someone chooses the negative or positive path, one with crackwhores and fistfights or peaceful meditation, it's all the same. Religions would like to say otherwise, thus creating an elite and dividing rather than unifying. They don't tell you that regardless of the path you choose there is no fire and brimstone waiting


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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14507234 - 05/24/11 10:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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SlashOZ said:


So i'm still not sure why you are so dogmatic about this density stuff?

Clearly if you are aware of this oneness thing then there is no veil.

furthermore preaching about oneness would only further your argument of life being lived entirely within the boundaries of love, etc, etc. teddy bears, etc.

so if their is a veil and you've found out about it wouldn't it be in our best interest to remain under the veil in order to experience this existence to its fullest, otherwise, according to you, life would be pretty boring and unfruitful.




Lol "this density stuff". Densities only refer to different levels of consciousness. The Law of One isn't dogmatic or imposing in that

1 – The principle is universally applicable, non sectarian, available to all.
2 – No particular skills and knowledge are required. It works for everyone.
3 – It is based on the respect of Free Will, with no manipulation.
4 – It is self-empowering, and based on individual choices.
5 – It does not rely on judgement, and is based on unconditional love.
6 – It is non-dogmatic.
7 – It promotes unity, rather than separation.

And regardless of whether someone chooses the negative or positive path, one with crackwhores and fistfights or peaceful meditation, it's all the same. Religions would like to say otherwise, thus creating an elite and dividing rather than unifying. They don't tell you that regardless of the path you choose there is no fire and brimstone waiting




I'll give you that last paragraph because I agree pretty much 100%.

I still don't get the arbitrary 3rd density stuff though. Why not label it 1-100 flavors of gummy bears or something equally as arbitrary? In fact, why not just stick with the second half of your thread instead of creating some sort of imposed hierarchy of consciousness????


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"Life's a bitch and then you die that's why we get high cuz you never know when you're gonna go." - NAS
"When people don't know what you're about they put you down and shut you out" - Black Sabbath
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi
"Look up at me I am God, look down on me and I am evil, look at me I am you." - Charles Manson.
"Don't question my reality." - Me (as far as I know)


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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: SlashOZ]
    #14507275 - 05/24/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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SlashOZ said:
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sunset_mission said:
Quote:

SlashOZ said:


So i'm still not sure why you are so dogmatic about this density stuff?

Clearly if you are aware of this oneness thing then there is no veil.

furthermore preaching about oneness would only further your argument of life being lived entirely within the boundaries of love, etc, etc. teddy bears, etc.

so if their is a veil and you've found out about it wouldn't it be in our best interest to remain under the veil in order to experience this existence to its fullest, otherwise, according to you, life would be pretty boring and unfruitful.




Lol "this density stuff". Densities only refer to different levels of consciousness. The Law of One isn't dogmatic or imposing in that

1 – The principle is universally applicable, non sectarian, available to all.
2 – No particular skills and knowledge are required. It works for everyone.
3 – It is based on the respect of Free Will, with no manipulation.
4 – It is self-empowering, and based on individual choices.
5 – It does not rely on judgement, and is based on unconditional love.
6 – It is non-dogmatic.
7 – It promotes unity, rather than separation.

And regardless of whether someone chooses the negative or positive path, one with crackwhores and fistfights or peaceful meditation, it's all the same. Religions would like to say otherwise, thus creating an elite and dividing rather than unifying. They don't tell you that regardless of the path you choose there is no fire and brimstone waiting




I'll give you that last paragraph because I agree pretty much 100%.

I still don't get the arbitrary 3rd density stuff though. Why not label it 1-100 flavors of gummy bears or something equally as arbitrary? In fact, why not just stick with the second half of your thread instead of creating some sort of imposed hierarchy of consciousness????




Densities just refer to the set levels of consciousness we progress through.

1st Density - Growth (i.e. fire, wind, earth, water)
2nd Density - Awareness (animals, trees)
3rd Density - Self-Awareness
4th Density - Love or understanding

y'know what I'll :pm: you the source I am citing from as to not derail this thread and because I've went off on loooong Law of One tangents when left to my own devices in the past and I'm trying to keep that to a minimum for the sake of the Shroomery.


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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14507310 - 05/24/11 10:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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sunset_mission said:
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SlashOZ said:
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sunset_mission said:
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SlashOZ said:


So i'm still not sure why you are so dogmatic about this density stuff?

Clearly if you are aware of this oneness thing then there is no veil.

furthermore preaching about oneness would only further your argument of life being lived entirely within the boundaries of love, etc, etc. teddy bears, etc.

so if their is a veil and you've found out about it wouldn't it be in our best interest to remain under the veil in order to experience this existence to its fullest, otherwise, according to you, life would be pretty boring and unfruitful.




Lol "this density stuff". Densities only refer to different levels of consciousness. The Law of One isn't dogmatic or imposing in that

1 – The principle is universally applicable, non sectarian, available to all.
2 – No particular skills and knowledge are required. It works for everyone.
3 – It is based on the respect of Free Will, with no manipulation.
4 – It is self-empowering, and based on individual choices.
5 – It does not rely on judgement, and is based on unconditional love.
6 – It is non-dogmatic.
7 – It promotes unity, rather than separation.

And regardless of whether someone chooses the negative or positive path, one with crackwhores and fistfights or peaceful meditation, it's all the same. Religions would like to say otherwise, thus creating an elite and dividing rather than unifying. They don't tell you that regardless of the path you choose there is no fire and brimstone waiting




I'll give you that last paragraph because I agree pretty much 100%.

I still don't get the arbitrary 3rd density stuff though. Why not label it 1-100 flavors of gummy bears or something equally as arbitrary? In fact, why not just stick with the second half of your thread instead of creating some sort of imposed hierarchy of consciousness????




Densities just refer to the set levels of consciousness we progress through.

1st Density - Growth (i.e. fire, wind, earth, water)
2nd Density - Awareness (animals, trees)
3rd Density - Self-Awareness
4th Density - Love or understanding

y'know what I'll :pm: you the source I am citing from as to not derail this thread and because I've went off on loooong Law of One tangents when left to my own devices in the past and I'm trying to keep that to a minimum for the sake of the Shroomery.





i'd rather you not send me an appeal to authority as that is not a sound way to prove things.

oneness is not something i disagree with. the whole arbitrary labeling and categorizing of reality is what i'm disagreeing with. if all things are truly one then there are not different densities to reality. all distinctions are in the end, false. to try and justify this whole density thing is really counterproductive to the oneness argument.


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"When people don't know what you're about they put you down and shut you out" - Black Sabbath
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi
"Look up at me I am God, look down on me and I am evil, look at me I am you." - Charles Manson.
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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: SlashOZ]
    #14507353 - 05/24/11 10:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Read the Law of One, you'll understand it. This isn't some arbitrary lulzy labeling I'm spouting off, these are the apparent levels of consciousness all things everywhere move through as they return back to the Source.

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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14507541 - 05/24/11 11:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

How can you be sure this isn't some sort of arbitrary lulzy bullshit your talking about? Are you schizophrenic or something? I'm gonna label you crazy..
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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: millzy]
    #14507583 - 05/24/11 11:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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"religious person" usually = uneducated retard, in most cases.

that being said, there are very compelling arguments for god, depending on what your definition of him/it is. people tend to ascribe god human attributes because most mythology uses the male aspect of conception as a metaphor in order to describe reality (which is again another word that is totally hung up on how you define it). idiots can pass seminary school too, so that's the conception of god that people with no intellectual depth whatsoever tend to gravitate towards. that might sound harsh but it's the truth of it. i think most militant atheism is just a scorching critique of what amounts to the dumbest of what humanity has to offer. and, i get it. but really, neither side has no clue about religion or the purpose it serves. it's a really stupid argument that has no solution and i'm really not sure why i'm even bothering to post in this thread.

/gets beer




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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14507631 - 05/24/11 11:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I personally believe that if my God (this is my God im talking about now, im not sure if you have a God or no God or what ever) reviled him self to the world as of to present him self as is/ a spirit fully/directly in front of you that the majority of people would be utterly destroyed from the evil working in their lives- it would all just scramble and they would die.


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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: TheHandOfDoom]
    #14508548 - 05/25/11 06:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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How can you be sure this isn't some sort of arbitrary lulzy bullshit your talking about? Are you schizophrenic or something? I'm gonna label you crazy..
:awedance:




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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: Mr.Qabalistic]
    #14508569 - 05/25/11 06:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I can't believe how bat shit crazy some of you are.


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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: Kada]
    #14510097 - 05/25/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

people who arent crazy are boring :yawn:


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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: Envix]
    #14510231 - 05/25/11 02:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

True. I like crazy, but when you throw religion in with it that's when things start getting fucked up.


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I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

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Re: lol- talking over a religous person showing there is no proof of god [Re: Kada]
    #14511704 - 05/25/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i think the afterlife has more to do with our egotistical need for justice. people seem to have this desire to be rewarded for all the good they've done and all the evil that's been done to them to be punished. it's all about us. i think that's a natural response that is deeply rooted in how we are wired for survival. but i also think it's important to recognize that when looking through the lens that religion can provide. for me, the concept of the afterlife is better when applied to events in my life. i can easily look back at periods of my life when i was a distinctly different person, and i can mark that person's birth and i can mark exactly when that person died, and i can apply the mythological framework of religion to that cycle in order to better understand myself and my place in....whatever it is that this is that we all seem to be a part of. i think that when religion is used in this way it can provide some very remarkable personal incite, and i also think that this is the exact way that it is intended to be used.

when your body dies, the need for an ego becomes unnecessary, and you wouldn't have a living brain to produce whatever it is that you're sensing. that being said, i think whatever happens is probably okay, even if you go out in a really terrible way. in the end i bet it's pretty peaceful. one thing we can all certainly agree on is that we'll all find out one day.


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Edited by millzy (05/25/11 08:22 PM)


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